Magisterial Son???

[Angel of Truth]

Hello Dearest All,

Ok i'l get right to it.

On www.New-Birth.net 's Forum i read about an almost second Jesus, one called the Magisterial Son. Who is he and what is His relation to Divine Love and Divine Truth??

Well i ask this for one Reason Only. Jesus in the Padgett messages taught me There never was any SATAN or Lucifer and also no ArchAngels or Fallen Angels (Demons). But this Magisterial Son Talk's about Satan being Anihilated not too long ago. I thought there was no satan to begin with. If he is Gods next Light to us and will be sent to help us develope spiritually, why is he way off on the Satan story?

This also popped into my mind. Somebody on this Forum (if i remember corectly) spoke of having and angel come to him and he had strong thoughts of ARCANGEL Michael and felt this is THE Archangel Michael. If archangels Dont exist why do so many people, even Divine love Followers claim to have felt Arcangels like Gabriel and Michal and Raphael near them. They Don't exist!

If i am mistaken that somebody on this forum spoke of an archangel visiting him and identifying himself, i am sorry, i am just too lazy to brown through the forums in search of this messege.

I am really anoyed at this, i was so happy to hear That no Satan or fiery hell exists and especially to learn all the Truths Jesus wrote through padgett. I really dont need some Second Jesus type person (Magisterial Son) or Spirit to come and turn that all upside down again.

Geoff Please explain to me who and what this Magisterial Son is, seeing that you posted it on New-Births forum on July 2003.

If anybody else knows more of this i would like to hear it.

Your Brother in Divine Love and TRUTH,

Angel of Truth

[George]

Dear AOT,

That is a very good question. I am sure Geoff has good answers for that.

Its good you know and no need to get upset at all that there are no fallen Angels or any of that stuff and that what you read in the Padgett and Samuel messages is all you need to know.
In time with more Prayer if not already you will be able to know for sure what is from what is not.

The only books I need read with the Higher Truths are the Padgett and Samuels... some of the others have traces and likenesses in areas but.... the but word. but but but...

just trying to get my buts out of the way.. lol

Actually and funny enough we were just discussing in a private section within the forum about contents in the different sites and then you come up with this. Well you didint come up up with it you like so many others have gone through some of this other content and you simply voiced your opinion.

Hip hip hurarayyyy.

You can check out some of the other sites:

http://www.truths.com
http://www.thedivinetruth/com
http://www.fcdt.org


Within the first 2 sites pretty much stick to and have all of the Padgett, Samuels and most all contmporary messages as well as some other goodies if you look hard enough.

God Bless you Brother and so glad to have you with us.

In Christ,


George

[Sandy]

Dear Angel of Truth,

The Padgett messages tell us clearly that there is no personified satan, fallen angel etc. - for once one receives a great amount of Divine Love in his soul and reaches the Celestial Kingdom and becomes an angel, that very person will be so full of Love that he won`t have any desires to do bad anymore. Well, at least that`s how I would summarize the message in my short simple words.

Furthermore the Padgett messages tell us that indead there are different spheres, some higher and some lower in the Celestial Heavens, so every spirit / angel finds his occupation according to his soul condition. So there are angels which are higher / more developed than others. Some people may call them archangels, others Celestial Angels of the higher Celestial Spheres. Maybe there is a spirit called Michael who traditional christians refer to as Archangel Michael and who therefore signed himself "archangel" in a message - even though “archangel” is a man-made category. Just for recognition, I mean. But I`m just guessing here since I don`t know any such message. Maybe Geoff can put more light on this subject.

There have been discussions on the subject of the eventual closing of the Celestial Heavens in which Jesus is the master on this forum before, and on the question whether there will be another Celestial Kingdom be opened once it`s closed – so those souls not incarnated yet will get “same chances”. If this is going to happen, it may need another person to get so filled with the Divine Love to become its leader. But since we are talking about something which may happen in the far off future, I guess we needn`t worry too much about that yet.

Anyway, I can sense that what may actually bother you is that there seem to be differences where you didn`t expect any. Am I correct in this ?

What we should keep in mind when we refer to posts here on this forum as well as different websites about the Padgett messages is that while most of us share this common belief, there naturally are still differences according to our differences in up-bringing, former belief systems, education, other influences of religious and spiritual teachers/texts besides the Padgett messages, personal interpretations of the messages as well as personal experiences which let us come to different conclusions.

As George just said: If you want to take the safe road, stick with the original Padgett messages !

And I would like to add: Listen to what feels appealing to YOUR soul !! A good friend of mine once told me: “Always listen to what the message is saying ! If it`s good, pure and loving, it`s of the highest truth.” Your soul, filled with God`s Love, can discern truths. You are highly capable to discern truths yourself - according to your soul development and, to a degree, according to preconceived ideas. But eventually our souls will be so filled with Love, so strong, that even the most obstinate preconceived ideas which we are heaviely carrying with us in our minds can`t do any harm to us anymore.

That`s what really thrills me !! :)

Lots of Love to you, dear Angel,

Sandy

[Kay Ann Ray]

Dear Angel of Truth,

Sandy has written a beautiful and truthful post for you. Take it to heart and know that you are on the right track, a good and loving path. Follow your heart, pray for God's Love and have faith that God and the ministering angels will guide you toward your goal.

When you have found the spiritual teachings which feel good and uplifting to your soul, stick with them; you don't need to try to understand the teachings of the other religions in the world. There are thousands, they all have some good principles in them. Some of them are not from higher spirits.

As we progress in God's Love and become divine souls, we will accept that all human beings are God's beloved children. When people believe untruthful teachings, it retards their spiritual progress in The Love. Many seekers are still traveling through a miraid of confusing ideas, concepts, and stories which can lead a person astray; but that is their free will choice.

I believe that God is Love and that He has created laws that govern His children's lives; we reap what we sow! We have been endowed with gifts which enable us to discren truth when we are seeking with heartfelt longings, when we desire to do God's will in our lives and are striving to activate the highest potential of our souls.

People can create their own destiny by "believing" certain things are going to happen to them. I've heard it sometimes called a "self-fulfilling prophesy," when a belief is held which limits the spiritual potential of a soul. The material mind is tricky; there are people in the world today who believe it's flat. I do not think that you are going to consider that notion to be true, just because others believe in it.

It is, in my opinion, a strengthening preparation to be exposed to a variety of conceptions, so in the future you will know how to love the person without necessarily believing in everything they say. Divine Love changes our hearts and makes us tolerant, loving, faithful, understanding, wise, compassionate and we will be able to demonstrate God's Love consistantly even in the face to opposition and adversity.

God bless you, dear brother, and your desires to "depend only upon God" where you will find the undying faith and strength to continue your spiritual evolution toward the Celestial Heavens.

Sincerely with love, your sister in Christ, Kathryn

[Geoff]

Dear Angel of Truth,

I suggest if you want to ask that question, you ask it where you read it. That way no body here will get annoyed. And I can answer it without starting a whole long discussion here that I am not of a mind to participate in.

Much love,
Geoff.

[doug]

Hi Angel,

You're more than welcome to discuss these questions here, though perhaps Geoff will feel more comfortable discussing it at his board.

I actually set up a thread dedicated to a comparison of the Urantia teachings and Padgett messages --
http://divine-love.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=489
I set that thread up in the "newsgroup" area, because it seems that these discussions often become long and involved, but you're welcome to continue the discussion right here if you prefer.

Suffice to say that there seem (to me) to be some significant disagreements between the Padgett messages and Urantia messages. I say "to me" because some people apparently think that there are not. I guess it all depends on how important you consider these differences to be. And this, ultimately is a matter of personal choice, I suppose.

While I can acknowledge that the Urantia channelings have plenty of beneficial spiritual teachings within them, which are undoubtedly helping many people in their spiritual growth, my "soul's perceptions," for what they're worth, tell me that there was no Lucifer, nor a "Luciferian Rebellion," nor many of the other people, places, and events described in this really, really big book...

YMMV (your mileage may vary) ;)