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DTNguyen
10-07-2004, 05:21 AM
Dear all,

Mediumship seems to naturally arouse curiosity in most people. But most people know very little about spirits and the spirit world yet, they eagerly venture to gain communion with the spirit world. Is mediumship dangerous?

It will be worth your time to read the spirit writing (thanks to Donovan) through the medium Staton Moses titled, "Spirit Teachings" @ http://www.meilach.com/spiritual/books/st/spteach.htm (http://)

Dear Divine Love followers, there is much wonderful teachings in the above writing and I believe you will be surprised to learn the writing when compared to the Padgett's is almost like John the Baptist to Jesus.

Below are some examples commented about "Is Mediumship Dangerous?"

We have been particular in our statements, because we are anxious to reiterate the warnings we have frequently given, as to the danger of attack by deceptive and personating spirits, whom you know as The Undeveloped. Of late, too, we have told you that trouble and perplexity were at hand through this cause, and we gave you special warning lest you should fall prey to their attacks. We have ascertained that the spirit who falsely pretended to be working with us is a personating spirit, whose aim is to injure and retard our work.

The abuse of everything is bad; the use, good and commendable. To those who in frivolous frame of mind place themselves in communion with the spheres; to those who force themselves from low motives in that which is to them only a curious thing; to the vain in their own conceit, the triflers, the untruthful, the worldly, the sensual, the base, the flippant, there is doubtless danger. We never advise any of unbalanced mind to meddle with the mysteries of mediumship. It is direful risk to them. Those only who are protected and guarded round, who act from no inner motive, but in obedience to the impulse of the guardians, who are wise and powerful to protect, should meddle, and they carefully and with earnest prayer. We deprecate always any unlicensed meddling. Nor can any safely mingle with the spirit-world, and so introduce one more disturbing element into his earth-life, except he be of even mind and steady temper. Any unhinged mind, spasmodic temperament, fitful, purposeless character, becomes the prey of the undeveloped. Doubtless it is perilous for such to meddle, more especially if their interest be only in the marvellous, to gratify an idle curiosity, or to solace their own vanity. The higher messages of the Supreme are not audible to such. Would that they who can hear them would forsake the trifling of the lower spirits, and, leaving the inferior planes, press on to the purer atmosphere of the higher spheres of knowledge.

It remains to speak of the agency of a class of spirits who, from mischievous design, or from pure sportive fun, or from love of mystification, frequent circles, counterfeit manifestations, assume names, and give erroneous or misleading information. Such are not evil, but unbalanced spirits who lack even balance, and who delight in plaguing mediums and circles: in giving exaggerated tone to communications, in introducing false elements, or in personating friends, and reading in the thought the answer which they give to a query. The work of such is that which causes you to say that spiritual manifestations are frequently foolish or silly. This is due to the efforts of these spirits, who, from fun or mischief, counterfeit our work, and play on the feelings of those who trust them. These are they who personate relatives whose presence is desired, and answer to their names. These are they who make true identification of friends in mixed circles impossible. Most of the stories current of such return of friends are due to the work of these spirits. These are they who infuse the comic or foolish element into communications. They have no true moral consciousness, and will pray readily, if asked, or will do anything for frolic or mischief. They have no aspiration beyond the present: no desire to injure, but only to amuse themselves.

These are they who allure to wrong paths, and suggest wrong desires and thoughts. They secretly influence mediums much, and prevent noble aspirations. They view with impatience noble and elevated aims, and suggest the material. They act as bars and clogs. They are greatly concerned with physical manifestations. They are usually shrewd and clever at such work, and they delight in presenting bewildering phenomena for the purpose of disturbing the mind. They victimise mediums in divers ways, and find a pleasure in the bewilderment of mind which they cause. Obsession and possession, and the various forms of spiritual annoyance, proceed very frequently from such. They are able to psychologise a mind over which they have gained influence....These, again, are spirits who befool inquirers who have asked for personal information. They return plausible answers, and bewilder the deluded inquirers, or if a personal friend have once appeared, and given a good test, his or her place on the next occasion may be filled by one of these spirits, who takes the name and replies to queries, giving vague and unsatisfactory replies, or telling false stories. It is always well to put the personal element as far from you as possible, lest you open the way to deceit.

"It is necessary that man be constantly reminded to seek spiritual gifts. We are come to teach, not merely to amuse or astonish. But we cannot teach where man will not be taught.

"The lowest spirits, hovering near earth, are the ones that most frequently manifest at circles, and simulate characters that do not belong to them."

"If men will put themselves in communication with the spheres under bad conditions, they do it at their peril. Evil influences are admitted, and danger arises. A circle should be composed of pure-minded people–seekers after Truth."

With love and peace to all.

doug
10-07-2004, 06:40 AM
Thanks, Do, for reposting that.

I say "reposting" because, amazingly, that exact passage was posted a few years ago to one of our earlier web boards. It's a powerful warning -- but regrettably it seems that the very people who might be most in need of it are the ones who will disregard it, thinking that it doesn't apply to them.

From our vantage point, as mortals, it is often difficult or impossible to know if we are in rapport with a deceiving spirit. This is where a community of seekers becomes very important -- where we can all compare notes and collectively evaluate the potential validity of a particular channeling.

But in order for this to work, the community needs to be a real community, with open, honest, and loving channels of communication in place.

After observing 25 years worth of mediumship mishaps and disasters, I would emphatically suggest that mediumship should not be a solo endeavor. Nor, as the above message suggests, should it be attempted without extensive spiritual preparation.

This advice our wise Angels keep giving us: "Seek first the Kingdom (the Divine Love), and (in due time) all else will be added unto you." We can heed their wisdom, or we can ignore it at our own peril. The choice is ours...

victors
10-07-2004, 08:11 AM
I agree.

Years ago my mother and myself also did it for 'fun'. The fun turned bad. We had physical manifestations, got ill for no reason and our house had a really bad vibe. Things got ripped off walls, kitchenware were simmetrically placed and stacked, needles floated in the air etc...

The fact that 'all people are mediums' should not give everybody the right to meddle. The fact that it requires several limbs and at least one eye to drive a car does not mean that all people can drive.

Doug, I agree with you (from another post) that the main purpose is not to develop mediumship but to develop the one main thing we have been commanded to do and that is love. I myself, in the last 2 years, have changed a lot in the fact that I now rather will pray for Divine Love than to get some message about something else. Sure, sometimes I get the 'call' and I take up my pen, but usually only after prayer. I get only relevant information.

The bible says that communication with spirits is wrong. I agree with that. Again what is the intent? Celestial mediums awaits a divine message. Celestial mediums receives information. Other mediums do not and rather focusses on passed-on love ones, lotto numbers and other future events and then for just plain fun that usually turns sour. The problem with lower level spirits are that they become that person's god as they usually think that this spirit is more real than God.


As someone told me about 18 months ago, rather just contineously pray for Divine Love. If after several years you are developed enough and you are receptive you will receive celestial messages.

If you do get the urge to talk to the spirits rather go down-town and pick up the first scruffy looking person and take them home. They will probably do less harm than a lower level spirit.


Love you lots

Victor Schutte

George
11-01-2004, 12:00 AM
Nice Stuff Victor... or NOT!
Phew, must of been scary.
If you knew then what you know now. Perhaps.
Its like anything else. If you want to do something you need to know and prepare for it.

Driving recklesly is dangerous as well. right?