Why do you long to be One with God?

[InkyWhip]

In the 'faq' section, I asked a question with respect to 'soul longings' and how
one may develop them.

Well, this, as far as I know, is not a frequently asked question, but it's one
that I thought I'd ask: What is it about God, if you can put it into words, that
you long to be One with God? What understanding, vision, connection,
prompted you to seek Divine Love in the first place? In other words, what
qualities of God compel or inspire you to seek At-One-Ment?

I look forward to hearing what you have to share.

Inky

[InkyWhip]

Very well, I know that I have not even answered my own question, but this is not something that I find I can take lightly…and so a complete answer is not an easy thing to write, especially if I do not want to ramble on for pages.

I can say that, before finding the Padgett messages, that I have always had some degree of proclivity to seek things that are ‘of God’. I am surprised at the degree of the quality of the communication I was able to receive (even though I did not take it that way at the time) with regards to Jesus being the Incarnation of Love, and that this ‘Way’ was open to all wanted to follow it. Being inspired by a God of Love who would share such Love with all, my soul opened up and received the Holy Spirit of it’s own accord, without my understanding that this was what had happened or that it was possible (or necessary) to do so constantly, were I to progress in Love to a degree that Jesus did.

Some years later, discovering the Truths, I was again mostly inspired by the key message in them that it is indeed possible for any of us to have as close a relationship with God, to be as Love-filled as Jesus was and is. Superimposed upon that is an understanding that my own wisdom and capacity to envision how Loving I may become, never mind how Loving God is, is limited. But, therefore, I can have faith that all my surprises, all that I do not know, will be augmented by new faith and knowledge that will awe me with the increased and expanded degree of Love and Inspiration that I feel! I shall never be disappointed in any of God’s Truth that is revealed, for I have unswerving faith that God is more, not less, Wise and Loving than I can possibly imagine! :cool:

I know that the most heady rush I have ever felt at the inflowing of Divine Love is but just the merest taste of that which lies ahead! :eek:

Dr. Inc.

[Dan Bowman]

Inky,

I asked my lovely wife Debbie (more than once), why she loves me? And she replied, "because of how you make me feel when I am with you." When I am with God, I feel something that is even more beautiful than how I feel with my loving wife. My Lord has become my ultimate love, the object of my deepest passion. I look for God around every corner, in every opened door. I run to Her/Him with reckless abandon. I am hopelessly in love with God. I just can't stop the beating of my heart for you Father, YOU ARE IT, to me....

dan

[Sandy]

Wow, that`s what I would call a DECLARATION OF LOVE ! :)

[George]

Hi Dan,

It is so nice to make your acquaintance. :)

Once you have some of the Fathers Love its something you cant seem to get enough of. I am learning to have a more desire for him, to get to know him better, to love myself more so I can love him more.

But my first and foremost reason is to be a redeemed child of our Heavenly Father, because that is His will which I make mine.


With Love,


George

[Dan Bowman]

A great big hug to you George, nice to also meet your acquaintance also. In reading your post I keyed in on the word redemption. We hear that word in orthodox Christianity, as being redeemed or delivered and rescued from sin. Redeemed is also believed in more traditional circles to be a paying of a debt, such as Jesus paying off the debt of the sins of mankind. We, of the "new birth", refute such belief as one individual atoning for the sins of another as we must all "work out our own salvation". In persuing the word as defined in the dictionary, I saw also this definition as:

"atonement for guilt"


A reconciliation for guilt implies to me, to be our reconciliation with God for our sins as realized through the transformation and purification of our souls through the Father's Love.

I have been a seeker of the Father's Love for many years and during that time have been an avid reader and seeker of much knowledge, through workshops, seminars, etc. for the improvement of the mind. I have been a student of Stephen Covey, Anthony Robbins, Norman Vincent Peale, Dr. Robert Schuler, Dale Carnegie, etc. etc. and I am still banging my head against the wall with my own imperfections and inhumanities. I once asked my blood brother Ronnie, why do we sometimes go full circle and come back to the same issues and re-read the same books from years previous. He replied that it was because we don't get the whole truth all at once but in little bits and pieces. My point in bringing up this voracious quest through inquiry, study and constant seeking for self-improvement, is that I have found nothing that sticks to me and has had such a dynamic affect as my redemption from my imperfections through the Father's Love. For me, all else pales in the light of the Father's Love to truly reconcile me from myself. Thanks for your post as it really made me think more deeply upon what Stephen Covey coins as, First Things First. Thanks George for your wonderful soul.

Dan Bowman

[George]

Hi Dan,

Thanks for you kind and loving spirit as well. I understand how you explain redeemed. I use it only in the same context many used in the Padgett messages once they reached the Celestial spheres. So that is my ambition.


We have had language interpretation conversations before and not criticizing you or anyone, I have come to realize its all to do with the reader inside you.

Think about that for a second. Is the reader reading in a loving way or angry?
When you respond is the responder responding with love? One step further would be to activate the love in your soul, ask for your guide or guides to be with you and help get the message accross.


Just some thoughts that will help if applied. I too Dan have read a few PMA books (poss. mental attit.) being quite successful in a MLM business for over a decade. The interpretation thought reminds of one that teaches you how to listen. The basics taught is to repeat everything the person says, then you know you are listening. So many dont listen but are always thinking just what to say.

Yes we all have so much to learn. I choose to learn all there is to know about our Father and so to do this I put my soul in first place and look to tune into it every possible second. :)



Sorry for getting of topic here.

With love,


George

[Jackie]

Dear Inky and friends,

When I was a little girl and even in growing up, I marvelled at the beauty of Jesus' character as portrayed in the Bible. Oh, what a dream it was to be like him! But the more I tried, the more I failed and despondency was mine.

I was taught that God was unreachable and that Jesus was an intermediary on His behalf for the human race. My parents reasoned that God could not look upon sin and for this reason, Jesus had to be there for us as a go-between. But oh how I longed to know God and for many years thought it was pointless to reach for the unreachable.

When I then came to the Truths as received by Mr. Padgett, I had great hope that, yes, indeed, a relationship with God was possible. I cannot even express in words my joy! And even greater joy when I found it was true!!!

And finally a satisfactory answer as to the meaning of, "Ye must be born again!"

And so as it is written, ..."he that hath seen me hath seen the Father...".

As my love was sure for Jesus as I knew him, how much more then is my love for my Father, the Source?

Glory to God in the Highest! Seek Him, oh, seek Him!

Love,
jackie

[w.a. sowle]

hi DLF family
thank you jackie for putting into words my experiences, on this wonderful path to be at-one with our FATHER. i so enjoy all of your questions and answers, they help me so much in my quest of being born again. sending blessings of love to each of you. wa

[Dan Bowman]

Jackie, I could really feel your soul behind those words. Wow!

And George, I like what you said about repeating what you've read or heard in your mind as it reminds me of a memory technique learned in a Dale Carnegie course I took. Your wisdom is awesome.

I've really grown in the short time I've posted to this forum. Thank you everyone.

Dan Bowman

[Mason]

Hi, Dan! My two cents won't be as emotional and poetic as your other responses. I'm sorry for that, because the experience was emotional...but in the telling, it sounds mechanical, physical/biological...boring. The Jesus messages are a lot better at investing the process of seeking at-oneness in the emotional terms that are very real qualities.

In my experience, I studied my soul. It was a mass of energy, the energy vibrated with a frequency, there was also a pulsating, undulating current within it, and I detected magnetism sort of holding the whole thing together.
This was the soul substance as I saw it...I should mention that this is what the soul was after everything of an ungodly quality had been shed. (See what I mean by boringly mechanical sounding?...At the time I loved and adored my soul, I was quite happy to be only soul, and I loved floating.)

It was the "purified" soul substance that was attracted to God, and as I was being pulled towards It, I knew that I wanted to achieve at-oneness and I was very, very excited at the prospect. I passed many, many souls of less substance; their power to be attracted was dictated by their substance. Finally, at one point I, too, had to stop...abject disappointment. But I noticed that this radiance emanating from the God/Source was affecting my innate frequency, raising it and raising it and raising it. I then realized I could never achieve at-oneness unless my native soul substance could be transformed by this emanating force so that it was of a quality/new substance that, while not identical to the Source/God, would allow at-onement to be accomplished.

Unfortunately, my soul was sent from the Presence...I was kicked out. I just wasn't good enough.

The exact nature of this experience...I only told you a portion...is not entirely understood by me and it's been forty years. It seemed at the time to be a specific place; maybe it was a summary of God's system. However, when I read the Padgett messages, they appear to me to be expressing the same sensations I had, the same "laws" I encountered.

So for me, why does one seek at-oneness with God? Because some of us have to...have no choice. Our souls are at the attraction point. Being attracted to God is built into the fabric of our souls...some people just won't or can't notice their souls. But for others, I guess the soul speaks to the mind, and pulls us where it wants to be to be fulfilled, to achieve its destiny.

[Dan Bowman]

My new friend Mason,
Your post was anything but boring as I enjoyed what you shared about your spiritual progression. I particularly was drawn to what you said regarding;

"So for me, why does one seek at-oneness with God? Because some of us have to...have no choice. Our souls are at the attraction point."

I feel the same way, as I just can't help myself anymore. The magnetic pull from the "great fountainhead" is so irrestible, that I don't think that I could even exercise my free will to deny myself the nectar of God's Love. It's like this whole at-onement/transformation experience is out of our hands as we have invoked the greatest spirit possession possible. I feel like my soul's default setting has been re-set by God to Divine from it's natural setting. I was just thinking about what happens to the free will as we become transformed by the Father's Love as eventually it will be impossible for us to be negative or create a sin. The free will appears to be a component of our natural creation as there are different laws for the natural and divine. Where am I going with this? Help me out Mason, as I've invoked a thought I've never had. What happens to our free will, when we become transformed by the Father's Love. As mortals, we can choose to pray or not to pray, but as Celestial Angels, one cannot not pray (not that I would want to). What do you think about the idea that our free will is also transformed so that we no longer have free will, rather possess or rather are at-one with the Will of God. Wow, that's a mind blower.

Dan

[jrm13]

very interesting yall. keep on talkin bout the Father. I love it!!!

[Mason]

Dear Dan,

Thank you so much for not finding me boring or stupid! Your question as to our free will being transformed by Divine Love...my Radiance...had never occurred to me as such. Just as the Jesus messages have made me analyze my experience and realize details, "laws," I'd never particularized before, your question has done the same! I'm so glad I joined this forum; it gives my thinking direction!

This is just from my experience, so remember that I'm interpreting activities that weren't spelled out...there were some messages, but a lot of it I've had to figure out, so the human brain comes into play and it's not always reliable.

Once my soul began to be pulled, "attracted," I...from somewhere, I don't know...knew its goal was to join the Source, Jesus' at-oneness with God. I was so excited, wanted the sort of slow, dreamy floating to hurry up, dammit, and get there, because I was so, so sure that this was the big It that every soul wants. Really, I could just taste it! Now here's what my soul's personality was like at that point: completely self-absorbed, completely me, me, me, totally selfish, just about salivating at how ecstatically happy I was going to be. To be honest, I noticed many, many other souls along the trek and I have to confess that I didn't care a rat's patootie about any of them. They were just there, hovering...big deal, too bad, I was on my way! I just didn't give them a moment's thought or consideration! When I entered the area of the Radiance, I'm sure I became thoroughly obnoxious in my single-minded pursuit of my own happiness. I was getting so close to the Source, so close I couldn't stand not already being there. The souls floated in concentric rings around the abyss inside of which was the Source and out of which emanated the Radiance...I wanted that inside ring and I got really pushy about it...the souls were thicker, I was having to occasionally rub up against one as I floated by...I must have been at the fourth ring and, looking ahead, I saw my passage blocked. Now here's how selfish I was: I didn't say these words to myself, but the flavor was definitely there: come hell or high water, guys, I'm getting through you two, so get ready to move! And I proceeded to literally insinuate myself between these two pillows, who were equally determined to remain where they were, to inch my way between them and wedge them apart so that Miss Wonderful could have everything her way! I was such a jerk soul! And wouldn't you know? When I finally got between the two what I by now considered blobs and was ready to pop out on the other side, I "knew" I wouldn't be going any farther!!!! Major dispondency.

Then the radiance and the transformation by it. Then the knowledge I had to leave.

For a while...most of the journey away...I was just trying to be accepting, submissive while my "heart" was breaking. But I had to obey. Again I passed by many, many souls and this time, not being so obsessed, I began to notice them. I was still brimming with increased energy, an unbelievably high frequency...I still had the peace, the total contentment that was another byproduct of the Divine Love...these other souls, hovering, not moving towards God, stuck by their own lack of substance, just waiting...I began to feel sorry for them. As I withdrew, my pity for them grew, and I said to myself, and these are the exact words, "I won't need this where I'm going." The "this" was my accummulated, acquired Radiance/Divine Love...I had formed a plan...how I knew that it would work, I have no idea. For the first time in the whole experience, I did not obey a pull one way or the other. Instead I directed myself off my course, went up to one of the most outlying souls, a really puny, wispy, anemic thing and transferred some of my Radiance into it. I thought, wait, don't unload it all, there are others. Again I went off course, found another soul that otherwise hadn't an ice cube's chance you-know-where of understanding the beauty and wonder of the Radiance and unloaded some more of mine. As I did this, I could feel myself becoming weaker and colder and noticed the blackness all around me. I don't know how many times I repeated this procedure, but all the way out until there were no more souls to help and I was alone, without my Radiance, in the cold and the void.

What your question made me realize was that even after the transforming of the soul by the Divine Love, I still possessed free will. And how much better a free will it was! The reason I wrote so much detail was so you could see what a selfish, egocentric soul I was to begin with...and not displaying much free will except in respect to being willing to turn into a battering ram in order to get my own way...versus how it took the transforming power of the Radiance to turn me into a rather decent, okay soul after all....and I still possessed my free will, except now my free will was dedicated to doing good. In fact, what I'd decided to do in my experience was to play God! And that realization, that a transformed soul can play God, be God's agent, is how I have...for the most part (I've always had a selfish streak!)...directed my free will during my lifetime.

I hope this gives you some meat to chew in your consideration of free will pre- and post-transformation by Divine Love.

See ya!

[DTNguyen]

Dear Mason,

Thank you for sharing your experience. I find it very interesting! What do you observe of those souls before and after you had given some of your light? During your experience and observation as you travelled in the spirit world, did you see your soul as though you were from a distance? Did your view change between from a distance and from within the soul? Look forward to hearing more of your thought and experiences.

In Christ love,

[Bajangirl]

Dan, you said:

"I was just thinking about what happens to the free will as we become transformed by the Father's Love as eventually it will be impossible for us to be negative or create a sin. The free will appears to be a component of our natural creation as there are different laws for the natural and divine."

I believe that the Free Will of man or spirit, is not taken away from him or become absorbed by the Divine Love, as we as we progress to the highest Celestials and beyond. I feel that, as we progress, there may still be decisions that is left to us to make even as we reach the highest heights.

I am quite sure that we will not disobey the work or the will of God because of the awesome attributes within His Love, in our souls; I feel that as a Loving Father, He will continue to let us know that we still have the free will to choose should we so desire, and to know that all we do is a result of our own free will.

Does this make sense?

Peace & Love
Brenda

[Kay Ann Ray]

Dan, you said:

"I was just thinking about what happens to the free will as we become transformed by the Father's Love as eventually it will be impossible for us to be negative or create a sin. The free will appears to be a component of our natural creation as there are different laws for the natural and divine."

I believe that the Free Will of man or spirit, is not taken away from him or become absorbed by the Divine Love, as we as we progress to the highest Celestials and beyond. I feel that, as we progress, there may still be decisions that is left to us to make even as we reach the highest heights.

I am quite sure that we will not disobey the work or the will of God because of the awesome attributes within His Love, in our souls; I feel that as a Loving Father, He will continue to let us know that we still have the free will to choose should we so desire, and to know that all we do is a result of our own free will.

Does this make sense?

Peace & Love
Brenda


Dear Brenda and all,

This makes sense to me. One of the thoughts I had is that at different times we have different desires, and we have the free will to "change activities" from time to time.

Not long after my grandmother, Amy, entered the Celestial Heavens, she stayed by the Gates observing the new souls entering into the Heavens because it brought her such joy to see their happiness. Jesus observed her being there and her joy in what she was experiencing and asked her if she would like to be one of the "greeting hosts" for the new comers?

So for a time she enjoyed this "role" of escorting the souls, graduating from the 7th sphere, into the Celestial Heavens which, I'm sure, fulfilled her hearts desire.

I hope that you all are having a wonderful love-filled day.

Your sister in Christ, Kathryn

[Dan Bowman]

Very cool story about your grandmother Katherine. You've "come along ways
baby" Love ya.

Dan

[Mason]

Thank you so much for your interest. As you may imagine, I have never shared that experience much...3 or 4 people, and am usually met with rolled eyes and a let's-humor-the-crackpot expression, so it's so nice, and unexpected, for me to have someone to bounce it off of...and I learn more, because questions make me look at things I just took for granted.

What was my viewpoint, within or without, from a distance? Both, but mostly within. In a world where knowledge is shared by thought transference, where one can see without eyeballs and human/physical body mechanisms, and think and respond without a human brain or central nervous system, I guess there's more freedom for the mind! At the very beginning, finding myself in a world of black nothingness, I was curious and wanted to get my bearings, and since the only thing there was me, I willed my mind to go into the nothingness and look back on me...that was how I knew what I looked like and recognized that it was my soul. During that checking-myself-out period, my mind went back inside to experience the sensation of being energy and having a frequency and rhythm, then, I think, out again to verify and then back inside and that's pretty much where my mind remained. During the experience, all the souls were on one plane...I could see ahead, to the sides, and a bit over them. I knew, however, the layout of the place, how the souls were grouped in rings around the Source, but I honestly don't know if a picture of that was placed in my mind, if I knew it from some memory, or if my mind did another exit...everything is so natural, smooth, simultaneous thought/action there, it's difficult to remember later how some things came about!

Did I notice a change in the souls from before to after I gave them my force?
I did not notice much change, but for one thing I was under a bit of a pressure to leave...not uncomfortable, threatening, just that I knew I had to leave and submitting to that will was my priority...and I had already decided that I was going to let the most unfortunate souls, the ones without a hope of experiencing the divine directly, experience what they were missing so that they would possibly put a bit more energy into moving out of their cold isolation, if they could...and with my changing their substance, to some extent they could get closer...so while I was rubbing against one needy soul and while I was transferring some of my energy into it, I was looking beyond to see where I would go next. I'm afraid I have a very pragmatic soul that didn't spend any more time with any one soul than I needed to in order to accomplish what I had set out to do! My soul has all the poetry of a gas-station attendant filling up car gas tanks! Well, if there's one thing I learned: I don't have a perfect soul!

Thanks again!

[Jackie]

Dear Mason,

I am enjoying your rendition of your experience and a thought came to mind.

"A candle does not lose its light by lighting another."

Just something to think on. :)

Nice to have you here,
jackie

[Mason]

Would that that had been true! I've often thought how wonderful it would've been to be on planet earth with the transformed, powerful soul! And I've wondered if that's what it was like for Jesus. Unfortunately, in my case when I was ordered away, I thought, "You won't need this where you're going," and although I didn't spell out that I was returning to the material world, I guess my soul knew it and I made the decision to give it all away...this plane not being the place where I had to be empowered. Looks like in addition to being a greedy-guts soul, I'm also short-sighted! However, if my experience was a memory, or a gift, or something, I don't know what, that I was allowed to experience, sort of as an incentive, but not because I truly belonged in that world, then maybe that's why I felt I should leave in the same condition I arrived. I really have no idea! It never occurred to me that the Radiance was diminishing its power as it emitted its transforming energy...why did I feel that I couldn't behave as did the divine love/radiance? I have never thought of this! I was an idiot!

[jrm13]

man i'd like to be a greeter too if i can ever get there myself lol

[Dan Bowman]

I think you are a greeter, John. It's early Monday morning here in Texas and who pops up on my computer at the begining of this awesome week, but John Melmer. Yes, John you're a greeter all right. Keep up the good work, O good and faithful greeter. Make yourself a greeter of one beautiful soul, for all the newcomers to this forum. Infact John, you were the first to greet me in love when I began posting to this forum. Think about this, your Freudian slip with your last post as the greeter. It's awesome dude.

Dan

[jrm13]

Dan, I want to thank you so much for your love! It makes me so good and so worthy! Boy, it is so nice to have you in this fellowship!!! You have lifted my spirits tremendously this morning!

[Dan Bowman]

Brenda,

My apologies for not posting sooner. Also, I just made the connection with your sign-in name as bajangirl. That's an interesting name you chose, what does it mean? I think that you and Katherine really helped me to see how we retain our free will however transformed by the Father's Love. Becoming transformed into a new creature is a very strange metamorphsis as the Padgett messages tell us that the Divine Love is not merely purifying us but is also making us anew. I'm striving for greater submission which sometimes appears paradoxical to free will as in submission, we are seeking God's Will rather than our Will. I can still thee though in submission, where we still have many choices as to how we serve the Will of God as Katherine's grandmother chose her work as Greetor to the Celestial Heavens.

I've had a vision Brenda of one's beautiful entrance into the Celestial Heavens:

I saw a very large cathedral with angels flanking both sides of a long beautiful runner, where those who enter this magnificent room are announced with great fanfare and trumpets and the joy of heaven is opened upon all who enter there-in. I've thought for many years now that if man was privy to the joy that was beyond, we'd be like lemmings jumping into the sea. It's a good thing that our sence of self preservation keeps us grounded here until it's our intended time of transition. Meanwhile, we seek, as in joyful striving for the inner heavens of our transforming hearts.

Thanks Brenda for your holy wisdom.

Dan Bowman

[Bajangirl]

Dear Dan,

I must say that your vision was beautiful and it certainly encourages one to want to strive for more of God's Love.

Katherine, that is a great story of your grandmother. To actually reach the seventh sphere, Wow .

When I read in the messages of the Celestials and the different Celestial Spheres and it's beauty, splendour and grandeur, and all the happiness that is theirs, I get this wonderful feeling and the motivation to pray even more of for the Father's Love. I have been praying a lot more lately and have been asking for His Love, more faith and guidance.

I must say that I cannot recall ever having a vision. I usually have dreams about things. Some years ago in 1985, one day, I was upset about a few things that had happen a few days before as well as, something that had happen that same day; after leaving work that evening on my bus home, I had time to think about things and made a decision never to return to the Sunday sessions I usually attended. I was angry with a few people and also decide not to speak to any of them again. As the bus neared my home, I got extremely sleep, so sleepy, I could not understand; I got off the bus telling myself that I will go straight to bed because I was so sleepy. I went into the house and barely made it to the bed.

As soon as my head hit the pillow I was asleep but came awake just as quick, realizing that I had a dream. In the dream I saw a opened book and the left side of the book with the page on the left was not visible for reading, and the page on the right was only visible from the middle half down. I then heard a voice as if over a PA System saying, Deuteronomy 12. The section on the page that was readable was verse 19. I went for the Bible and found Deuteronomy 12, verse 19. I realised that this was a message but at the time I did not know what it meant since I was not a bible student.

During a meditation, I saw Jesus standing by an orange tree wearing an off white robe, he look at me and asked me by name, " Brenda, will you help me with the New Birth next week?" I said: next week? and then I said yes, I will.

I have a very strong intuition, the gift of healing and automatic writing, which I discovered in in the 1984/85. I do healing but I have not done any AW since then until two days ago I got a short message.

We all have the free will to develop our gifts through the Divine Love of the Father, and more of His Love is what I am striving for, as I am sure we all are.

Peace & Love to all
Brenda