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Zara Borthwick
09-02-2005, 11:43 AM
I felt inspired to write about my experience about praying for the Divine Love. It has been through soulful prayer that I have come to truly know and love the Father and this all began by reading the Padgett messages. It took me a little time to understand my own experience of praying for Divine Love because I soon realised that as time went by, that many different experiences were available to me. For instance, for the first two years, I prayed consistently, for hour long sessions at a time. Some days I felt drenched and blissed in the Love, and at other times, it felt it was just me. My soul longing would drive the experience, and it became apparent that a reassessment was a good idea. Out of the observations of my need and my want to be at-one with the Father, it came to me in my heart, that all I needed to do was to sit quietly and in the knowing of Divine Love, and His knowing of my soul need to feel the peace of this Love and the joy of the inflowing of my Heavenly Father’s very essence. Praying and knowing the Divine Love is where, for the individual it all begins. I would love others to share their experiences of praying and knowing the Divine Love.<O:p</O:p
Dan Bowman
09-02-2005, 12:38 PM
Zara, you are such an angel as I was hoping to see a post from you. Your idea is a good one & helps us reflect on what is good in our lives. After a few days of CNN, I am nearly driven to tears at the fate of our less fortunate brothers & sisters in New Orleans. I wondered how prayer affects situations like this as we often hear, "we need your prayers". So when I think about a disaster such as this, how does prayer affect the outcome? Christianity speaks of intercesory prayer whereas one intercedes prayer to the Father for the benefit of another for healing or help. We hear of individuals or groups praying for world peace. So what are the dynamics of prayer that affects what is prayed for? It appears somewhat mysterious to me as God deals with us 1:1 and how one persons prayers affects another as in interceding on their behalf is both wonderful & mysterious. When I think that God is already aware of the need for the suffering soul that I am praying for, to what benefit is my prayer when God is both aware & able to help the suffering soul without my help. Perhaps it is the collective power of love that as Divine Souls join the Father, that the solidarity of Divine Love focused on the one being prayed for is the dynamics that we are speaking too herein. Sometimes we may discount the power of our prayers in the face of the enormity of the problem prayed about, however Love is the greatest power in the universe & can overcome all obstacles. Let us pray as a colllective of Divine Souls for the suffering souls in the US southern Gulf States. They need so much help, they really need our prayers.
Your loving brother in Christ,
Dan
Angels of Divinity
Zara Borthwick
09-02-2005, 12:58 PM
Dear Dan,
What a good post to ponder such questions:) When people find themselves in these sorts of experiences our hearts go out with compassion and perhaps this very real, human recognition reflects the very love in which we love our fellow man. I know that the Father hears our prayers, and loves every soul. In great natrual disasters, I always think of a line from a song by the Pretenders:" we will always carry on; when something is lost something is found"
Pondering and praying,
Zara
Dan Bowman
09-02-2005, 01:01 PM
Well Zara, I must confess that your question has me just "popping" like hot popcorn. Many years ago when I lived in Santa Cruz with Russell Higbie, Greg Boster & Michael & Debra Holmes all of whom later lived in the Divine Love community, I had a very intense experience in prayer.
I was alone in my room praying very intensely when a light bulb exploded in my table lamp. You can imagine my response as I was sitting when this occured. I jumped to my feet & my eyes were as big as saucers. "Lord, was that a powerful prayer". Now I realize that God's Divine Love does not affect the things of inanimate nature & perhaps it was a fluke or coincidence that this occured when I was praying.
Later, I was speaking with Rev. John Paul Gibson, past president of the Church of the New Birth, about this incident & he suggested that I use candles instead when praying. It also seems that many times when praying with burning candles that the room would become very bright. Since this is not the affect of the Divine Love, could it be an affect of an angel who is present?
I must confess that when the light bulb blew up when praying, I didn't know at first what the sound was from as I thought I was having "my pentecost". I'm still looking for my pentecost as I believe in the saying, "be careful of what you pray for, because you might just get it". Lay it on me Lord, I'm awaiting & a prayin.
With love & prayers for you.
Dan
Angels of Divinity
Zara Borthwick
09-02-2005, 01:18 PM
Dan
That is a really funny story and the post is popping now:D Yes, I know of that brightness, and how joyous that is, perhaps it is showing you that you are unbreakable in the Love, and that the Father's positive energy is like the energiser bunny...it will just keep on comming and lighting the brightest light in you and Angels must be popping in too.
Do you always pray with your eyes closed or does it vary? Sometimes with me, it is an open eyed top-up. As an example, I was at a cafe' doing a crossword with cup of coffee, and found myself in an open eyed prayer. The waitress arrived and asked why I was smiling, and I shared that I had just been loved by the Father's Divine Love. Later after the day had passed, and hour was spent in deep prayer. Each was as perfect a moment, but so very different.
Happy moments,
Zara
Dan Bowman
09-02-2005, 02:36 PM
Zara, I think that I pray with my eyes open more often than closed. Ever since I've learned of the Divine Love, I've moved away from the dominant Christian posture of praying with my head down and eyes closed. When I learned that God made me beautiful and now even more beautiful with His Divine Love, I find myself as if looking to the Heavens, anticipating the inflowing. Since traditional Christian perceptions of God are based on fear, I sometimes see that submissive postures such as kneeling, head down and eyes closed disempowers me. When I was in a yoga workshop recently, we were talking about body language. We were asked to lean our head forward, slump our shoulders and thus engage in shallow breathing. We were asked how we felt? Did we feel empowered or disempowered? Next we were asked to throw our shoulders back, lean back our heads and breathe deeply from our diaphram. How did we then feel? I felt great energy. So for me, prayer takes on many postures, but mostly with my shoulders back as I look upward and outward to my Father's Heavens.
Upward and outward,
Dan
Zara Borthwick
09-02-2005, 02:57 PM
Dan,
That is so beautiful, and inspiring, thank you. It is great to hear that you look upward to the inflowing of this Love...me too,mostly:D Many years ago in a prayer group, we all found that when we were praying for the Divine Love our physical bodies would respond and gently lift and stretch toward the inflowing of the Love. Sometimes when I have prayed, and the peepers are closed, it is brighter on the inside that in the plain light of day. It still amazes me, that from my first prayer many years ago to now, that when I pray to the Father, it still feels as fresh and new as the very first time! Wow is He cool or what?
One of the most amazing things is that we can be so knowing about the Divine Love and yet for another it is their very first prayer. And I think in this way, no matter how much Truth we learn whilst here in the flesh, this will always be so.
All aglow, and Nicholas says hi too,
Zara
Kay Ann Ray
09-02-2005, 05:44 PM
Thank you, Zara and Dan, for all your beautiful input and sharing of your experiences with praying for and receiving our Father's transforming Love. It's very encouraging and uplifting to see spiritual topics of conversation to enjoy and become involved with. It seems to me that as we pray for God's Grace we will gradually become transformed; the angels tell us that the Divine Love works like leaven in our souls and the transformation process continues until the "whole batch rises" and is changed into a divine soul.
In my opinion, everyone will not experience the pentecost in a similar way, but will have an individual, loving experience as the Father responds to our individual needs and what is most appropriate for us at the time, in our spiritual growth and transformation. I also believe that even though we may not have a "pentecostal" experience, that will not infer that a transformation is not underway.
Day by day we build our kingdom slowly, stone by stone we build our spiritual foundation strong and sound. I can't point to one particular prayerful experience which stands out from the others, but I often feel tingles along my body, some light headedness and a deep breath comes without effort or intention. This has long shown me that I have relaxed into my soul and had holy communion with God.
As I progress in the Love, my life becomes more peaceful and rewarding. I am from an anxious background inherited from family traits or tendencies, which I acted on for many years. I believe that I have finally learned that worry, anxiety, and the like, do nothing to allievate the challenges, but only tend to intensify problems, so it behooves me to be calm and sensible in order to give love and support in difficult situations.
God blesses us, each and every one. It is up to us to accept these blessings by knowing that they are for us, that God Loves us and wants to bestow so many wonderful gifts upon his beloved children. It seems that oftentimes I block the very gifts I'm praying for by not feeling worthy of receiving them. I do now feel worthy of God's Love and blessings and will strive to give love from my soul throughout my daily living so I will be more open to receiving more Love.
I am praying for the hurricane victoms; I'm praying that our rich government will see the importance of getting food and water to them right away; and be willing to put itself out for helping the needy in our own country instead of escalating the war in Iraq.
God bless you, fellow workers in spreading the truths about the availability of God's wondrous Love.
Your friend and sister in the Christ Spirit, Kathryn
Dan Bowman
09-02-2005, 09:55 PM
Hi Kathryn,
As I was reading your post I picked up on something that many of us struggle with & was introduced recently by Zara in her post on Worthiness.
" oftentimes I block the very gifts I'm praying for by not feeling worthy of receiving them".
As I've been reflecting on, what is an angel? I think about worthiness as fundamental to knowing oneself as an angel of God. To know oneself as an angel is to accept God's gift bestowed upon us as His holiest of holies, His Divine Love. Obviously this is a gift unearned however must be sought & accepted. Is it possible to seek the Father's Love & yet not accept it? Perhaps it is like one who seeks a lover & yet rejects the very love they seek for feeling unworthy.
It appears that we are plagued by so many issues that abide within us that I do feel comfort in my faith in God to help me overcome myself. Sometimes it seems like we could all use a full time therapist if we could afford one to better understand ourselves & reconcile ourselves to greater peace & harmony. Perhaps it's good that we don't have acccess to this cure as this may be what drives us to God for healing & inner peace & happiness. I think we'll see the issue of worthiness around for awhile as we all grow in loving & accepting ourself as an angel of God.
Have a great weekend,
Dan
Zara Borthwick
09-03-2005, 12:07 PM
Dearest Kathryn,
It was so wonderful to see your post here,and to feel your the love shining off the page. Thank you for sharing your love and experiences in receiving the Divine Love. I have introduced many souls to the Divine Love. The humility with which these individuals receive the Love and the Truths enabled these souls to really experience the simplicity of soulful prayer to the Heavenly Father. I have had conversations with other souls who have been spiritually seeking and looking for the big "revelation" to confirm their need for power in their spiritual aspiration. I too have experienced the Love quietly and peacefully; the Father always there to meet me in my prayers.
For some people the Divine Love when introduced simply does not seem anything special...bells and whistles, or trumpets and choirs perhaps? And yet the Divine Love is the miracle in life and knowing the Divine Love the greatest joy and potential a soul may ever know. My Heavenly Father’s Divine Love is the love song of my soul.
I can hear the Angels singing,
Zara
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Dan Bowman
09-03-2005, 03:12 PM
Zara & Kathryn,
Keep shining on Divine Sisters. The Father's Love is the love song of my soul too.
Dan
Angels of Divinity
Amada Reza
09-03-2005, 04:11 PM
Dear Zara, and divine love family,
Thank you for sharing your experience of prayer with us. These moments are deeply personal and difficult to describe, but so worth the effort to share with the small words we have! :)
I remember as a child going outside at sunset and singing to God. I wanted to be pleasing to Him and tried to express in my child's way how pleasing He was to me, as I believed He showed His Love in the beautiful colors of the sky at night and in the morning. I remember feeling very full of love and joy. Perhaps I received the Divine Love at the time, and even though I did not have the words, jI had the longing.
The wonder of God's Love is that it seems to fit every soul perfectly, even though each of us are different. His Love is like a beautiful garment that He makes for each one of us, and as one aspires for It, she has the privilege of wearing this richest cloth, made with colors that suit only her. And how lovely it feels!
Now, I can dance in the wedding with all of you, dear brothers and sisters, dressed in our garment of love and sharing our riches with all of God's children!
Sending you all my love,
Amy
jrm13
09-03-2005, 09:31 PM
Dan's singing for want of a better word!) reminds of the hog-calling they do down south. soweeeeee piggi piggi piggi. love you bro lol
Dan Bowman
09-03-2005, 10:45 PM
John, this is really all Richards fault and no wonder, anyone from Joisey has never seen wild piglets prancing across the road following their mama in all array of colors; black, brown, tan and even striped. You really have a facination with these critters John. Perhaps when you move to Texas I'll have to bring you guys a new pet. It's been said in these here parts that pigs with little angel wings can be seen just before dark. Maybe I'll catch you one of the angelic versions John. You sure are a hoot. Things are probably never boring at your house John.
Your loving hog farmer,
Dan
Zara Borthwick
09-04-2005, 06:33 AM
Dear Amy,
A song of innocence so beautifully sung! I can see you in your cloth of rich and glorious colours dancing at the wedding. I hope that it is filled with joy and laughter for all. Thank you for sharing your childhood memories of the Father and the sky, and I know how sweet and filled with joy that would have been. A little angel in wonderland!
With my love to all,
Zara
jrm13
09-04-2005, 04:02 PM
lol. what i love about you dan is your sense of humor and how you are able to laff at yourself. that is truly a sign of someone who is comfortable in their own skin. much love to u bro and keep those funny posts coming!!
InkyWhip
09-05-2005, 01:03 PM
Dan,
You mean...no, we can't say "When pigs fly!" anymore? :eek:
We only have bunnies living in the 'wild' here (that is, we find them running
around in people's yards) Ricky loves to go find bunnies!
But, does anyone know a 'bunny call'? like John's pig call...SOOOOWEEE!
Inky
Dan Bowman
09-05-2005, 03:35 PM
Richard,
John was sharing the other day that the Celestial Angels appear to "frolic" in frivolity. You seem to have that frolicing nature as well. Speaking of nature, you were talking about bunnies. We have them too as I play dodge ball driving down the road as the little cottontail bunnies scamper about. In West Texas, larger jack rabbits high tail across the pavement as night time is when they can be seen the most. Funny thing about animals; Maine has their moose jokes , Alaska, the bear and Texas the wild hog. I really marvel at the complexity of the animal kingdom as I wonder about God's agenda in His creation. Beyond the food chain I wonder why He made so many species? And then you look at ocean creatures, many of whom have never and may never be seen by humans. Why did he make so many? To what purpose do they serve? And then the universe, with it's seemingly infinite creation. God is so very complex to me.
Your loving friend,
Dan
jrm13
09-06-2005, 12:56 PM
richard i am sure that dan can come up with something as he is very good with animals and other creatures, witness the way he loves some of the ones up in here lol. dan how about it, a call for the bunnies? much love to you all.
Dan Bowman
09-06-2005, 01:22 PM
John, I once heard a man talk about another, whom he called a sweet man. I have never heard a greater compliment ever spoken as you too are a sweet man.
Your Sweet Friend,
Dan
Zara Borthwick
09-10-2005, 05:11 AM
Walking up to the market the other day I bumped into an acquaintance that I had not seen in ages. After the initial sharing of our personal news, the subject of spiritual things came up and I realised that this was an inspired meeting. In the past, and following this same leading, and if I was at home, the various Padgett messages would be brought out on the table and I would describe the content of each of the sources over a cup of tea. Because in this instance, the books were not available, I knew beyond a shadow of doubt that this individual needed to know about the Divine Love and I could feel the Truths and the Love welling up in me. Trusting that this was my Father prompting me, I spoke of the experience of Divine Love and how this was a faith that could be nurturing and helpful in her daily life. It dawned on me that I had to convey the essence of the Truths in this meeting, as I did not know if we would meet again. It also occurred to me that although I did not know her circumstances I had the strongest feeling that her soul needed to become aware of the Truth and more importantly, to feel and know the Father and His Love in her life. It was just amazing to convey to her in about two and a half minutes, what may take a life time to read. The words spoke from my heart and I felt that the most important thing that I could give to her was that the Divine Love is available for her to receive and that God is a soul of love and that by receiving the Divine Love in time this will develop her faith in Divine Love and the Father will Love her all the way.
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As I spoke I could see a weight lift from her heart and a lightness about her, and there was a sense of relief in her voice as she replied I was obviously meant to meet you today to hear about this, because I have been asking for help. We embraced and as we began to go our own way, just before the goodbye, I said you can ask for this Divine Love from God anytime you need to; she smiled and said thank you and disappeared as I did into the humdrum of the market.
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I have had quite a number of such meetings where one needs to hear about the knowing of Divine Love. I know that I have read the books and I know that the knowing of the Father’s Divine Love is at my ready. I have learnt that sometimes it is for some to simply hear about the existence of the Love and the faith that it brings. <O:p</O:p
Dan Bowman
09-10-2005, 11:58 AM
Zara,
Your message is inspirational & a beautiful one to me. You're an angel among us. This is what it's all about, building the Celestial Kingdom, one soul at a time. Hopefully your friend will someday inherit this destiny. You inspire me Zara with not only your words but with your life & how you live it. Thanks sweet sister.
Your loving brother in Christ,
Dan
jrm13
09-10-2005, 01:36 PM
Our hearts and prayers go out those suffering from Hurricane Katrina. These so called catastrophes only draw us closer to God so let us be thankful for them. Last night I saw all the 'big names' in music singing Gospel! What a treat that was!
Zara Borthwick
09-17-2005, 12:13 PM
It was a cold and rainy spring Saturday. I felt very peaceful this morning as I read the morning paper; looked at the board and had my croissant and coffee. Around lunch time, Nicholas and I spoke more of our experience with the Father. I always love this and it has become so much part of our day. Our conversation revolved around the soul and perceptual communication with spirit. When ever I speak my heart always shines with happiness for I really feel the joy of Divine Love. We always listen to each others experience and as he left to meet with a friend and to watch an Aussie rules football preliminary final, I settled in to watch an old black and white movie. The afternoon passed without drama, the sun came out for a glistening moment and the afternoon eased into the evening. The moon tonight is very bright, and may even be a full moon. As Nicholas and I prepared our evening meal we spoke further of the knowing of Jesus and his truths and how wonderful it is to feel the Father, and Celestials in our lives, and how grateful for the messages we are.
Anyway, I just wish to say how much I love you Father, and to those who one day may read my entry, have a wonderful day with the Father too. Perhaps you may also like to write a page in the diary.
Zara
jrm13
09-17-2005, 12:42 PM
The poetry of love is such a wonderful language Zara and you write it so fluently. Yesterday I felt the Love flowing into my soul and it made me so happy! I got a mere glimpse of the joy that awaits me. What a wonderful Father He is and how much He loves His children!
Amada Reza
09-26-2005, 08:21 PM
Anyway, I just wish to say how much I love you Father, and to those who one day may read my entry, have a wonderful day with the Father too. Perhaps you may also like to write a page in the diary.
Zara
Dear sister, Zara,
I am moved to see you sharing your beautiful soul's aspirations, and thank you for being my colleague in Christ. I am feeling at peace today, knowing that I am in the loving arms of God and close to the angels' whispers.
I recently had a conversation about the polarities between freedom and order, and how fine a balance it is to walk the divine path in this world. It seems that modern society is particularly concerned with the freedom of its members to do whatever they wish, with little consideration of the effects of their actions. Corporate greed and environmental pollution are only two unfortunate outcomes of many in our collective disregard of the judicious use of our free will. Where I aspire to judge no one of the wrong and right of their actions, I do realize that a merciful and loving God acts through His laws to bring about harmony and balance for all of His creations.
It is my prayer, then, to align my will with the perfect Will of God, and harness my power to His Love, that I might be in sync with a divine order. This will help direct my thoughts, my desires, and my actions to serve the soul's purpose of my brothers and sisters, and to be in the right place and that right time with my love and faith.
May you have a blessed day. I am sending you and Nicholas all my love,
Amy
Zara Borthwick
09-28-2005, 03:22 PM
Dear Divine Love Diary, Amy and my friends,
I felt inspired to write on the spirit of freedom and liberation. I have always felt a great privilege in knowing about the Padgett messages. On my journey I have come to accept that at this time my understanding of living with the Divine Love and the ongoing revealing of my faith is a freedom and liberation which I enjoy. I cherish the availability of being able to pray for the Divine Love without any conditions that prevent this from happening. My freedom here is a soulful dance in a celebration of illumined truth. Every time I ask the Father to help and guide me in my experiences of life, I see this asking as a liberation because I can ask. Equally I have seen the Law of Retrogression come into effect where things seem to be going backwards and being undone so that the rightfulness of harmony and order may have a chance of then working in the goodness and spirit of the Father.
I understand that there are boundaries in life because there are truths and these truths help to define the Love laws that enable the soul to progress toward the Father and a greater understanding. With complete freedom comes complete responsibility, and the Father is the most perfect example of this expression. As truth increases in ones life, so to does the living of love and therefore a soul choses to be more responsible in all they participate in. The polarity of freedom and responsibility can mirror as freedom with complete irresponsibility is so evident around us.
The spirit of freedom and liberation is a joy present on this message board. We can be free and responsible in the way in which we share in our experiences of Divine Love which will be liberating for others. Or, we can act freely with complete irresponsibility. Boundaries do need to be put in place to gently nurture and guide, and by example show the harmonious workings of individuals coming together in their own individuality in a shared common purpose and vision; that being to serve the Father and not oneself. These are boundaries of living truth. Because people post on the board and because people are not being asked to, it would be responsible that those whom contribute understand and accept their responsibilities and not to take advantage of this freedom.
Living with Divine Love always seems to present new beginnings. Each new day brings us the opportunity to chose to live in Love and harmony, liberated and free.
With Love
Zara
Zara Borthwick
10-02-2005, 11:15 AM
The experience of Divine Love and Divine Truth is a compelling one for the individual. I know from my own experience that the whole subjective nature of Divine Love and Divine Truth is so very real because this transpires in my own soul. In fact each person who partakes of Divine Love finds themselves in a subjective experience with the Father. What this means is that on one hand, the desire to communicate to another the experiences of Divine Love and Divine Truth is matched or reflected by our own subjective soulful experience. The ongoing relationship between ones own experience and helping or introducing another to the experience of the Father is very much part of our education and learning. Almost in an equation of the more I know the more I wish to share, and the more I know the more I wish others to know.<O:p</O:p
What the Padgett messages illustrate are objective teachings of the Divine Love and the natural love. These Celestial souls have so embraced the Father that when we read these messages, it is often a subjective experience. This is part of the mystery of interpreting and understanding the Truths. This is why, when introducing the Truths, people may find it difficult to accept. It is to be remembered that even the Celestials began in the very same way in which we do; so their initial experience of Divine Love would have been the same as ours: a subjective one. Even though we may become quite good at teaching Truth whilst here in the flesh, our own subjective experience is part of the objective teaching. I believe that when Jesus walked the Earth those thousands of years ago, part of his beautiful countenance would have been a demonstration of this union of objectively teaching Love and subjectively accepting the Truths of Love; natural and Divine. This balance that he would have displayed would have been a peacefulness of understanding in the presence of mortal life and the Father. In the Celestial Heavens he is a living example of this to souls here and there. <O:p</O:p
Part of the ongoing drama that is associated with those living with the Divine Love is how to make known the Truths. On one hand we want the World to know about the existence of the Truths and Divine Love, but on the other hand, most of us are still coming to terms with our own experience. We can talk the talk of Truth as if we really know it, when our own knowledge of our own experience has just begun. In other words, our experience of Divine Love and our knowledge and experience of Divine Truth will be reflected by the true union within our soul in Love and Truth. <O:p</O:p
In general conversation I am usually asked with regard to the experience of Divine Love, how do you actually experience it and what will it do and give to me? What this infers is that even though we are in our own subjective experience there are some practical workings at a grassroots level that can add a little objectivity to the word shared between two people. I use some general guidelines when introducing Divine Love and Divine Truth that seem to work at giving another a foothold to at least understand this illusive subject.
Some of these phrases are:
I simply sit down and open my heart and let the Divine Love flow in;
You may only feel the need to experience the Divine Love for 10 minutes a day;
Over a period of time you may really feel the Divine Love;
The Divine Love has really enabled me to experience Faith in my life;
With Divine Love you can learn more about it by reading the Padgett messages which are in books such as the Angelic Revelations of Divine Truth or the True Gospel Revealed Anew by Jesus, these are the two books that I have read to learn more about my experience of Divine Love.
Generally speaking the question most asked when I am speaking with another is how do I pray and how often do I need to? I respond there is no general rule of thumb and then I place this response into my own personal experience, I draw from my own experience and say I pray for the Divine Love from the soul of God about once a day and all I do is sit quietly and close my eyes and ask the Father to love me. I sit quietly and know that having asked, I rest and receive. I do explain that when I first started in my experience of Divine Love, that my soul was really dry and thirsty and that the Divine Love was water to my soul and that I found that I would pray for a lot longer and with more frequency. Now it is more just a top-up.
Because our own experience is subjective and gradually we become more objective about this I realized that my role in making the Truths and the Divine Love available for another is always a presentation. To present the awareness and availability of Divine Love and Divine Truth is an ongoing work in progress that will always be the case and one of love and service. I learn that each presentation will be different and serve that individual and there is not one way only.<O:p</O:p
It is important not to become disheartened by the lack of acceptance or enthusiasm, by other souls. The vision of Divine Love is not only in our own subjective experience and participation of Divine Love but to create the awareness of its existence in the first place. Even if the whole world knew of the Divine Love it would still require individuals to partake of the Love and this they must do for themselves. Truth alone can re-teach history and rewrite the wrongs, however the world can know about the Truths yet it still requires individuals to partake of the Divine Love for this subjective and objective experience of Divine Love and Divine Truth to become an experience of Love demonstrated in the soul of a man in union with the soul of the Father. <O:p</O:p
This reveals the ongoing nature that we find ourselves in our Divine Love experience today. The Divine Love is always contemporary. It is not static and conditional upon our own past history or the world’s history and condition for that matter. One can simply begin praying for the Divine Love now. This same expression holds true for an individual who is presented with the awareness of the Divine Love tomorrow, in a week, a year or even 200 years time. One can simply begin praying for the Divine Love now.
Because the Divine Love of the Father does not change the change that happens is our relationship to it as a greater understanding of the Truths that have grown us up in our love and comprehension of this subjective experience. I have learnt that although the Divine Love is the most perfect and complete experience of Love the speed with which the awareness of the Love is made throughout the world is one speed with the Father. It is not necessarily man’s decision to take on this responsibility alone, but rather to be of service with the Father as one’s own subjective experience develops. For instance, how can one individual teach the world about the Divine Truths in all their understanding when in fact they have only been receiving the Divine Love for a month? What this illustrates is that all of us in our respective experience can teach and create an awareness from the little we know, which with all humility will ultimately add up to the whole picture. This will be the way mankind demonstrates a unity of living with the Divine Love here in our mortal lives. The Padgett messages will always remain at the center and be the flame that lights and illuminates the way for humanity. Our subjective experience will always remain at the center of our own experience and be the flame that lights and illuminates our way in humanity living in our Faith in Divine Love with the Father.
Truth alone will be without value if the Divine Love is absent. Love alone without the structure of the Truths will not stand in the face of adversity. Only a union of these two most perfect attributes of our Father’s soul Love will unify the individuals of this world. This is perfectly demonstrated in the peaceful acceptance and understanding of Divine Love and Divine Truth that is harmoniously lived by those glorious souls; our brothers and sisters of humanity living in the Celestial Heavens.
Zara
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Dan Bowman
10-02-2005, 04:32 PM
Zara,
What a great read on Sunday morning. The peacefulness of this new day is added to by your lovely & thoughtful post. The dichotomy of subjective/objective made me think about our inner & outer worlds how to bridge them. As Doug has said, sharing what's innermost in our hearts as to the Divine Love may be a rare event for some. Is this because we may believe that most people may not want to to be "hit upon" in our zeal to lead others to the Kingdom? Or may this be out of our fear in being rejected by others in sharing something that as you say Zara is very subjective.
For many, coming out of the "closet" and externalizing their inner world, or other self is for some a scary prospect. Perhaps it is out of our desire for acceptance & approval from others that we pattern our speech & behavior after what we percieve to be more socially accepted norms.
I think however, that the dam of resistance will eventually break as the power of the Father's Love will overcome all our fears. It's comforting to me that a process is in place that is smarter & more powerful than me that is always working double time behind the scenes transforming & changing us into Angels. Despite our resistance & fears, God's Love will prevail over all of our disconcordant conditions & thereby usher us into Christhood & a supreme Divinity.
Thanks for sharing your uplifting thoughts on this special day in the Father's Love.
Your loving friend,
Dan
Zara Borthwick
10-04-2005, 11:58 AM
I have always loved reading the Padgett messages. From the first day to now, I find them as inspirational and fulfilling, and I am always with good feelings as I contemplate the messages that I have read. During the formative years of my spiritual reading I read a lot of books that were “channeled” material. Inclusive in this were books written by people explaining and defining their own spiritual experience and perception on what an enlightened state of being was and how this may be achieved and what in fact, enlightenment is.
When I began reading the Padgett messages the first realisation that dawned on me was how definitive the language was, and how practical and uncomplicated these messages were. Even though these messages were delivered by souls in the Celestial and spirit realms most had walked the Earth a very long time before I had. The language and simplicity of delivery of these messages did stand out in comparison to the other channeled materials that I had read. Age and generation aside, I found that I could relate to these messages very easily. I liked the fact that there was no cryptic meaning or esoteric genre that needed to be decoded before the essence was revealed to me. These messages are a work of fact. They are not spiritual fantasy or fiction. The messages are bona-fide. As my study has continued I know that the souls writing the messages are real and convey to me through James Padgett a real insight into the understanding of soul related truths, love and life with God. It occurred to me as I study these messages that the language and description, although speaking of religious things was in fact explaining more about the workings of things…of love and consequently, a souls life. I realised that here is a working truth right before my very eyes that could reveal the workings of life both here in this world and in the afterlife. <O:p</O:p
The messages speak of the Divine Love and as I experienced the Divine Love this validated and qualified the very language and factual detail of the words written in the messages. It is written in the messages, that when an individual experiences the Divine Love for themselves that the experience of the Love confirms the factual aspect of these soulful communications of truth. One of the more comforting aspects of these messages is that upon reading the truths, I sensed real contact with what is the truth. So many other spiritual books were just stars on the pathway that shone brightly for awhile and then glimmered away. But these Padgett messages were like the sun and have not dimmed in their glowing truth and teachings of love. I find this interesting that what was presented in these messages clarified such a complex and far reaching humanitarian quest that resided within me to find not only THE truth but the meaning to life. I know this is the Divine Love. There is no shadow beyond this understanding. It is with the Divine Love that we have a resource to work out the experience of life. I love this fact. The Divine Love and the Divine Truth that is written in these messages is a truth-seekers banquet of knowledge and information. I know that people often see a life with God as being a religious experience however I have found that the soul life yearns to be liberated in love and to really understand this experience without the shackles of teachings and language of old. This is a personal discovery and the individual must be free to define their relationship with God as a free individual soul, lest we fall to the errors of the past. <O:p</O:p
The Padgett messages are a continuing source of soul enlightenment. Every time I open up a page and begin reading I am filled with that wonderful sense of adventure and beginning. I am ever grateful that these wonderful writings have been presented so that the Divine Truth is not only seen in the written word but also heard in a soul’s experience of Divine Love.
Zara
InkyWhip
10-04-2005, 12:58 PM
Zara,
Thanks so much for sharing these thoughts and experiences! :D
Your eloquence and the depth of your reflections are such that I can hardly
keep up. But I am always glad to try.
The gentleness with which the messages speak is one of the first things that
impressed me. I had read some of Edgar Cayce and Jane Roberts, and seen
myriad messages from folks on the net claiming that God was bringing down
a rain of fire and brimstone and that the world was going to end before the
year 2,000, etc. :eek:
I initially figured anybody claiming to speak for or channel Jesus was just
another self-deluded kook, but the message which I read was sensible, kind,
loving, gentle, intelligent and encouraging, certainly enough to check out
more.
Well, that was ten years ago, and I certainly am happy that I was willing to
explore the unknown to find the invaluable!
Inky
Zara Borthwick
10-04-2005, 01:44 PM
Dear Inky,
Lovely to read your post thank you. I agree whole heartedly about the loving nature of the Padgett messages. I could feel my heart opening as I first read the messages. Also after reading my first 5 pages, I could feel the peepers closing, and I realised that I was really deeply asleep! This happened often and I realised that as I read the messages, I was asking for the Love and it was the Love that was flowing in to my soul and sleep was a needed moment to integrate this new experience. Gradually as I adjusted to living with the Divine Love and read more of the messages, I began to become more robust and could read and a chapter or two before I needed a break. Now, I look back on those days of my beginning, with a loving fondness...the Father Loved and nurtured me so well.
I was with Nicholas in LA back over the Christmas of '89 when he was inspiried to the Bhodi Tree Bookshop to buy the Angelics vol.1 Not long after this we returned home to Melbourne. How did you first come to find the messages? I would love to know:)
With love,
Zara
Kay Ann Ray
10-04-2005, 09:28 PM
Dear Zara, Inky and other beloved coworkers spreading God's Divine Love messages,
It was our dear sister in Christ Holly, who placed those Volumes in the Bhodi Tree bookstore for Nicholas to find. Aren't we all so blessed to be guided so perfectly. She and Michael are going to have their baby in February, I believe. They're so blessed, too.
In the 1950' and 60's, I had been searching for spiritual answers to life's questions, I enjoyed reading books about "sensitives" and their experiences of interacting with spirits. I had a friend who was psychic and gave psychic development classes. One time when she didn't have a special presentation prepared, she took us up onto a hilltop in Santa Cruz, overlooking the Monterey Bay, where George Stokes was teaching from "True Gospel Revealed Anew by Jesus", Volume II was his favorite.
That was in 1970. Amy wasn't very interested in attending these study circles. One day my psychic friend "dared" her to go; Amy says, then of course she did. So we can thank my friend for helping us onto the Divine Pathway.
In 1972 a group of 7 souls (plus an elderly woman who went with us to visit her son in NY) went east in April to serve Rev. John Paul Gibson, who was President of the Foundation Church of the New Birth. Later we incorporated the Church of Divine Birth because Rev. Gibson wasn't easy to work with. We returned to Calif in 1975 and continued our spiritual outreach for another 3 years before George died.
I guess I could go on and on, but I have other work to do.
God bless you, each and every one. I love you.
Your friend and sister in God's Love, Kathryn
InkyWhip
10-06-2005, 01:08 PM
Zara,
The story of how I 'came across' the Truths is actually quite simple.
I had been viewing and participating in a number of Usenet newsgroups for
some time (remember, universities have had 'internet' access for more than
two decades, it was only in the mid nineties that general access to the public
became available) looking for those who really were looking and asking real
questions. Not to answer them (there were far too many, as there are today,
who were all to ready to jump in with their rehearsed prescription answers)
but just to support them in a time of unrest in their lives.
I'd also seen plenty of yahoos posting 'prophecies' from God about how He
was going to rain fire and brimstone down on such and such a people and how
the world was going to end last week.
So, somewhere along the way I saw a post with a somewhat interesting title,
and looked at it. Well, the first line said something like...A message received
from Jesus by James Padgett, on such and such a date. And I'm thinking,
okay, another nut. How far down to I have to read to find the predictions of
fire and brimstone or something which is off the wall. (Not that the whole
message taking thing didn't seem off the wall at the time. It kind of reminded
me of Bill Cosby's 'Noah' skit where God calls Noah and says "I want you to
build an ark." and Noah says "Right! Am I on Candid Camera?" :D )
Well, the text was surprisingly gentle and led me to visit the web site posted
at the bottom of the message. I fully expected to find some indications of
cultic ensnarement, or calls for large donations, or something fishy, but never
found it.
So, as far as I know, I am the first 'sticker' to be fished through the Internet
by Doug.
As I have written elsewhere (I can probably find it if I dig) I had managed to
be guided to the essential core Truth of Divine Love by my own guides and
Angels some time previously, though not to the extent of understanding how
continual prayer and progressive growth were needed to receive and develop
this Love. So I was primed and ready to hear what the messages had to say.
Love,
Inky
Well, the text was surprisingly gentle... And here, Richard, I'm guessing that you also mean "easy on the credulity." Your comments remind me that what I've always liked about the P. messages is that they don't generally ask me to accept as true "incredible" statements. That and, yes, the (usually) gentle tone with which the angels delivered their message. For one who’d read a lot of spiritual books, and heard pretty some far-out claims, this in itself was a big plus for me when I first discovered the messages. A spiritual teaching for both hemispheres of the brain! ;)
<O:p
Zara Borthwick
10-07-2005, 06:10 AM
Dear Richard and Doug,
Richard thank you for your post. It is really wonderful that your guides helped you along. To know that the guides were guiding you along so that you could find the Padgett message, confirms that there is much love and guidance to be shared on this side and on their side. What perfect timing for us all it is when we look back and see our Divine Love beginnings. I know when I first began my experience with the Padgett messages, I often thought that the guides must say "phew, she made it!" and I imagine their souls shine with light and love when they see us, one whom they have guided guiding another. I agree with you and Doug wholeheartedly that the loving nature of the messages were an inspiration to me as well. It is all so wonderful.
Love,
Zara
Dan Bowman
10-07-2005, 12:12 PM
In 1973, I was invited by my friend Bonnie, who worked with Kathryn, to a meeting in Santa Cruz that was led by George Stokes & attended by Kathryn & Amy. Bonnie called this meeting an "encounter session". I thought, yea, I can do an encounter session but if she had called this a prayer group I may have never gone. The rest is history as this has been the greatest "encounter session" I've ever experienced. Everyday is an encounter session with the Divine Love for me. You too?
The Divine Encounterer,
Dan
Kay Ann Ray
10-07-2005, 04:27 PM
Dear brother Dan,
Please excuse me if I point out that your date, 1973, is a bit off, it was earlier by at least a year. Amy and I met George in 1970 and attended study circles for over a year before he made plans for us to go east to serve our church.
He wanted to leave on his birthday, March 15, in 1972, but we didn't get away until April. We stayed in a park, near Catonsville, MD, I believe, for about 3 weeks. We were pulling our living quarters on our vehicles. You and two others in our group returned to California while we were still living in that park. Were you still there during the flood?
Of course, the material details are inconsequential, the fact that you got-it and stuck-with-it are what saves your soul. We are so blessed to have angel guardians who are devoted to helping us through our blocks. They can see into our hearts and know just what we need to get us over, around and through our negative patterns.
The most any of us can do is our best at any given moment. It is comforting to me to know that as we make the effort to do our best, to give our love, accept ourselves with our imperfections and have faith that God's Gift of Love is available to us at all times, we will continue to grow and change and become more divine every day.
God bless you, each and every one. Keep up your good work, outreaching with the truths and your love. Continue your wondrous prayers for God's Grace and Mercy, I'm striving to do the same.
Your friend, coworker and sister in the Christ Spirit, Kathryn
Dan Bowman
10-07-2005, 05:49 PM
Your memory is sharp as a tack Kathryn. First I lost my hair, then my teeth & now my brain. I was estimating that time frame as now I'm in the know on when this encounter began.
I was thinking about the many others who visited & lived in the At-onement Affinity Community. Were not their lives impacted as were ours? It's facinating thinking about what drives peoples decisions to accept or reject the Father's Love. What is it that made us respond so favorably?
I've encountered a reformed Jew this week that favors a non-theistic God. Theism embraces a personal, external diety that one worships. Apparently this new movement is growing out of the dis-enchantment of Christians with what they deem as a dead religion. The time is ripe for us to bring these truths of the Father's Love as many are not buying time honored first century Christian doctrine anymore.
Regarding the flood in Catonsville, Russell, Michael & I had returned to Santa Cruz shortly after the groups arrival in Maryland. Thanks again for the update on our beginings.
Love ya,
Dan
Zara Borthwick
10-08-2005, 08:52 AM
When I first began reading the Padgett messages, one of the most interesting aspects was the existence of another love, the Divine Love. And this wonder remains with me to the present day. The experience of natural love and Divine Love is a joy to my heart, and I often find myself pondering these two loves. It is quite interesting how the Divine Love is completely harmonious to the soul in natural love, and how the natural love is so accepting of the Divine Love. What is also interesting is how these two distinct loves can reside at one place at one time, the soul.
When my soul is in prayer with the Father and I am experiencing the Divine Love I find it quite amazing that my soul is with the Father’s soul and that there is no physical difference, distance or condition on this soul to soul union of Love. Also in this soul union, even though there is physical environment, Celestial environment, and natural sphere environment, the soul can be with the Father’s soul directly and the receiving of Divine Love is not dependant upon these environments. Every soul can simultaneously be with the Father’s soul and receive Divine Love.
<O:p</O:pWhen I am in prayer with the soul of the Father or in daily life, even though I am familiar with the Truths, I say with my heart I love you Father. Communications with the Father can be in very real and human terms; sometimes the pure heartfelt word is more than enough. As the Divine Love inflows to my soul, I have also felt this Divine Love on my person, and feel this with my whole physical being. That I feel how lovely this Love is I have also said to the Father “how good your Divine Love makes me feel”. Throughout my Divine Love experience the one thing I have been able to give to the Father is my love.
With love
Kay Ann Ray
10-08-2005, 03:55 PM
Dear sister in the Christ Love, Zara,
I love you and am happy to have you on Board. Since we are all uniquely individual, we each have our unique and individual perspectives about life, God's Gift of Grace and spiritual progression. I know that we are so very blessed to have recognized that we have a special soul potential which we can activate through developing our dependence upon God, the Creator of our souls.
The way I understand the blending of the two distinct loves is that the first Divine Love that we receive goes toward purifying our natural love. There is a difference, however, with a soul who is praying for and receiving the higher Love through humility and desire to do God's will. The souls who progress on the natural pathway, without the help of God's Grace, do not become purified until they reach the 6th sphere. The souls praying for God's transforming Love become purified in the 3rd sphere.
It seems that it has been said that the natural love is absorbed by the Divine Love; like the material mind being absorbed by the mind of the soul when the soul is becoming transformed by God's wondrous Grace. I will not try to pretend that I understand the workings of God's amazing laws, but will say that I know they work perfectly.
All I can conclude is that I am very grateful that I have accepted God's Gift of Grace as a Reality and that I long to receive more of It every day. I can feel the changes in my outlook on life and know that I am on a special pathway of spiritual progression. Thank You, God and loving ministering angels for guiding me and watching over me so diligently.
May God continue to bless you abundantly with Love and Mercy; may you feel peace and joy in your daily living. I love all my divine brothers and sisters and keep you in my prayers everyday.
Your coworker, friend and sister in God's Love, Kathryn
Zara Borthwick
10-09-2005, 03:54 AM
Dear Kathryn,
Thank you for you warm, loving post. Our observations of our experiences of natural and Divine Loves are constantly with us and as you said, it is just wonderful to know that we are in God's Grace.
I do find that I talk and chat with the Father quite a lot as if I am speaking with a friend who is with me all the time. I decided through the years of receiving the Divine Love that to really embrace and accept my life with the Father, that I needed to invite and involve the Father in all my activities throughout the day. Having the Divine Love in my soul in a way, the Father is with me in all that I do. Over a period of time I found this quite helpful, so I did not have to have my Divine Love experience happening in just certain areas of my life. I have often found myself remarking to the Father, that I am sure you have seen all of this, or heard all of this before ;) . Nevertheless, I have found this to be quite fulfilling to have an open relationship with the Father.
It has occurred to me that we all are soul-explorers of the Divine Love experience. For it has only been recently that individuals have lived in a knowledge of the Truths and actively with Divine Love for a considerable number of Earth years, and how this soulful experience is integrated with the physical body and our local environment. We all know of the importance of our first finding the Divine Love, and what is developing is individuals who have not only lived in the Love for a day or year, but 20 or 30 years! This brings to light the very real human insight of what can be individually experienced as a learning of living with the Father for a long time, in the flesh. Never before has this opportunity been seen or lived with the availability of the Truths that we have in the Padgett messages. I think that this is quite interesting as it brings a sense of age and maturity to this new way of living in the Grace of God's Divine Love. Eventually as is happening now, we will have people who have been living with the Divine Love for a long time, and from this time-grown wisdom, Divine life-truths can be passed on and shared to those who are asking to further learn and understand how this wonderful Divine Love experience evolves. It is a bit like the grandfather and grandson fishing. The grandson wants to catch the big fish in the first 5 minutes. The grandfather knows and will ultimately teach the grandson that is not about the big one, but rather about being able to go fishing together. The Divine Love is an experience which we all share in together, knowing that gradually the slow progress of time completes the picture.
A truth in time is love Divine.
Zara
Zara Borthwick
10-11-2005, 04:44 AM
Dear Divine Love Diary,
All morning as I was having coffee and chatting with friends, I had this thought that has been with me and I felt inspired to write. It just came to me as one statement of love and so I wrote it down: "No man has a greater love in their soul than the Divine Love of God."
It is a good experience when these things happen. When one writes down what has been given, it feels then that it has been received and the energy seems to integrate as a perfect, sharing loving moment.
With my love,
Zara
Zara Borthwick
10-13-2005, 02:39 PM
Dear Divine Love Diary,
Today was another interesting day. I have really enjoyed thinking about all of the recent posts that have been posted lately with Celestial communications as the central theme. We are all so fortunate to have this to share and to learn in our faith in Divine Love. In my heart I kept feeling the words "ask and receive", and I just know that this simple truth is a begining with Divine Love. Asking our Heavenly Father for Divine Love and receiving this Divine Love is beautiful and fills my heart with joy. I love you Father and thank you for your Love and this day.
Zara
Dan Bowman
10-13-2005, 03:15 PM
Amen.
Love,
Dan
Dan Bowman
10-14-2005, 01:35 PM
Zara & Nicholas,
I realized that my last post was also my shortest one to date. However, there is a wonderful harmony that is emerging out of the past that is refreshing & energizing as I feel that you guys are vital to this paradigm shift on the DLF. It is the presense of God that is at work here, working through our souls as the living Love of our Heavenly Father. God is at the healm & we are His shipmates.
Casting a line of Love your way,
Your shipmate,
Dan
Amada Reza
10-19-2005, 06:56 PM
Dear Zara,
I have been praying about your question of how to reach souls on the natural love path with the teaching of Divine Love, and have received some angelic inspirations that I would like to share with you, with the hope that you could share your loving thoughts on this.
When our souls were created by God, we were, at that time, aware of our relationship to Him as the “created.” This distinction plays an important role in becoming aware of our relationship to God after our incarnation into the mortal body. It would appear that some souls are content to take their place among all the creations of God, with no sense of having a special relationship to their Creator. In this “natural” state, the soul may enjoy the goodness of her creation, seeing herself as an equal to all created beings, and progress to the state of purity with which she was created. And, such contentment may make inaudible that still, small voice within her.
Then, there are those souls who, for some reason, are never content, and wander restlessly through the world looking for something to fill the void that aches within them. We may find many of these people are the “misfits” of society, addicted to the promises of the material world in order to alleviate the “illness” of their disquiet. I believe this is the soul who is most open to the teaching of Divine Love – for in their most inward part they know their Creator, and this knowing speaks to them loudly. This may explain why Jesus found company with the “sinners” while on earth – he knew they would most likely embrace the truth of their relationship to God, and accept His proffered gift of Divine Love.
I can imagine that in the natural heavens it would be even more difficult to reach the contented soul, so beautiful are their surroundings, and such wonderful company of others who are also content with their lot. Kathryn received a message from Jesus some time ago, where he shared that when he would speak with a group of perfected souls, they were more impressed with his garments than with what he had to share. :-)
But I have read of the experience of a few sixth sphere spirits who became aware of “another heaven” that they could not enter, and were beset by this. What may have started as a curiosity became the key that opened the door to their inward knowing that they could hear that call for “something more.”
It has become clear to me that the development of our natural love is an absolute necessity to establishing harmony on earth and in the spirit world. Acknowledging the equality of all life is the soul’s first step toward humility, and, at the same time, a step toward worthiness. This may be why I find such accord with people who adhere to natural path teachings, and why I do not find such accord with many Christians. The ideas of original sin, vicarious atonement, and eternal damnation seem to prevent the soul from taking these steps, and cause them to think and act in fear more than love.
Thank you for sharing your wisdom and love on this board, dear sister. I look forward to hearing from you.
Sending you and Nicholas my love and prayers for a peace-filled day and week ahead,
Amy
Zara Borthwick
10-20-2005, 10:11 AM
Dear Amy,
Thank you for your post and love and for responding to the question asked with regard to introducing the Divine Love to natural souls. Your angelic inspirations and Dan’s message covered a lot of ground and illuminated the understanding of the needs and desires and diversity of souls. In the way in which we first discovered the Divine Love and Truths for ourselves will explain a lot about how others will be attracted to their experience of what we now have come to know and love.<O:p</O:p
<O:p</O:p
I do feel that even though we are created in the natural attribute of love with the complete soul potential of receiving Divine Love that eventually, even in a perfected natural love, the inherent knowledge of a soul will shine through and that this soul will eventually long to reunite with the soul whom gave it life.<O:p</O:p
In my public experience there was the introduction to Divine Love and the introduction to Divine Truth and then there was the experience. Relating my experience enabled other souls to listen and accept for themselves that they too could ask for and receive the Divine Love. Even though there were souls from all walks of life, each could accept and feel the experience as real and loving, simple and uncomplicated. The comment most shared after this experience was the freedom and ease with which the Divine Love of God could be experienced.
<O:p</O:pThe acceptance of Divine Love with other people was really easy and everyone present would feel really comfortable and leave feeling like they had experienced something wonderful. For some it was quite profound and they would venture forward to inquire more about the Love to which then I could begin introducing Divine Truth. Amy, it was as you said those individuals whom had had an inner need for truth that ventured forward to seek more input and knowledge. Others said they would continue asking for the Love and some were really happy to have just had the experience. What was really good was that I knew that everyone had had an experience of Divine Love and that in a very peaceful way, had found the Father.
<O:p</O:pOur physical life is so amazing because we physically experience things material and spiritual. This bridge of experience that relates to and with one another enables real hands on introduction with regard to Divine Love experience. I made a mistake years ago, when I hammered an individual with the Truth whom had not asked. I just could not understand why they did not “get” what I was saying. The more I pushed, the more they pushed and little was done in Love that day. We laugh about this now, and I know I have been forgiven by this lovely soul and this soul now enjoys a Divine Love faith experience, even though they have not read the Padgett messages.
<O:p</O:pI am absolutely convinced that it will be and is our shared experience of Divine Love in an accepting and loving way that will introduce souls to the Father in a real and true manner. I have learnt that to introduce the Divine Truth to begin with means that only a very few souls can openly hear and accept it compared with the amount of souls who can so readily accept and receive the experience of Divine Love. In no way does this diminish the Truths and the value of the importance of understanding and learning this language, however the Truths of the Padgett messages create the awareness of the Divine Love that we then experience and in this experience of natural and Divine Love we can share with others our experiences of the Loves.
<O:p</O:pOur hearts know how beautiful the Divine Love is and to be able to experience this Love and to share with others this great experience is truly a joy. Amy and Dan, Kathryn and Richard and others, I am sure all of our postings will help guide souls into understanding and experiencing Divine Love. I have asked, and you have given so much love and input with the Celestials. Thank you very much.
Love,
Zara
<O:p</O:p
Zara Borthwick
10-21-2005, 01:34 PM
Dear Divine Love Diary,
I was thinking about Dan and I hope that he is well on his Kayak journey. He has been a valued contributor a support and friend and I look forward to seeing his posts soon.
The week has been quiet, peaceful and has been a week of reading the messages and contemplating the MOW. The weekend will be busy with clients, and I ask that you Father are with me to meet the needs of the souls who come to me for healing.
Well it is getting late now, and I just wanted to say how much I love you and I thank you for your Love and care this week.
All my love,
Zara
Dan Bowman
10-24-2005, 12:52 PM
Howdy Zara & loving friends,
Just back from a coastal kayak trip to Padre Island, Corpus Christi, Tx. What a great trip this was as it was a wonderful time for prayer & quiet soulful contemplation. I've been blessed with several of these opportunities this year as for me, the wilderness affords a unique opportunity for special time with God. For instance.........
As I was paddling this week, south in Laguna Madre, an estuary in the Intercoastal Waterway, a strong wind was blowing out of the north blowing my kayqk all over the place. I was trying to focus on prayer & also tracking my boat in a straight line to stay on course. Sometimes I would close my eyes to stay focused on the Father. It was hard to stay centered as the demands of watching the waves so as to not get sideways & broach on a wave & get turned over had my constant attention. It was hard to stay focused on both. It's like life sometimes, as we're having to deal with so many issues that seem to hit us on all sides. This went on for some time until ....
I dropped my rudder. A boat's rudder is that amazing control, when employed, causes the boat to track on course, even in trying conditions. I thought, "this is cool, I can close my eyes & pray & not worry about the waves causing me to turn over or get blown off course." At first I was timid about closing my eyes as I would pray for about 20 seconds & then open my peepers & check my boat's position. Nearly every time the boat was on course & all was well & under control. Each time I took longer & longer sessions with my eyes closed as I had greater faith that I was safe in the arms of my Father's Love.
Each of us has a rudder on board our own ship as we're all the captain of our own destinies. When we drop our rudders in prayer for God's Love, we track towards our heart's desires & draws us as no other power in this universe. As we rudder towards the Celestial Heavens, our course is true & no wind or adversity can steer us away from this awesome destiny.
Your loving friend,
Dan
Dan Bowman
10-24-2005, 04:22 PM
Hi Zara,
It's little ole me again as I knew you'd just love this. One of the guys (3 of us guys) on this trip is Mike. I gave Mike a copy of Volume I last year and every time we get together (which is several times a year) for a paddle trip, I share with Mike some new truth or piece of information about the Divine Love.
For instance I shared with him how much I personally enjoy the exchange we all share in the DLF, sharing in our passion for the Father's Love. I also told him that my passion lately for the Father's Love has got considerably stronger. I don't need to ask Mike if he's read the Padgett messages I gave him as he usually (probably out of guilt) tells me first that he hasn't read the book yet.....but that he is intends to. But that really doesn't matter to me, because he may never read this book, however, like Paul when he was in prison....I have a captive audience. When we paddle together, I'd usually pull up to Mike several times a day and share some new information about the Divine Love. However, I needed to feel as if it was what I truly felt moved from my heart to share and not simply give him too much or push something off on him that he may not desire. Too much information and I would turn him off.
So I guess some things I learn about teaching the Divine Love to seekers is:
1. Go easy at first, information overload is too much to bear for anyone.
2. Speak from the heart, be extemporaneous, original and sensitive.
3. Every time you see that person, give them something new that you have
personally discovered about the Father's Love. It's common knowledge in
sales, that when a person says no; what they're really saying is that
they don't have enough information. Give them something new.
4. Know when to quit talking and remember to listen to the needs of the
seeker. They may need to hear a message about healing whereas another
celebration. Meet them at their point of need, ask questions.....get them
to tell you about themselves. As you listen, you'll pick up on the need.
5. We're all mediums of the Father's Love and the Angel's influence through
us, extends through all of us who seek His Love. Actually we are all
mediums for the Angels, some have the realization and others seek
thereof. Listen to the Father's Love and to the voices of the Angel's as
that will guide your words when you speak with others.
6. Share your personal testimony. People love to hear about overcoming
adversity and meeting challenges through the spiritual perspective; they
love to hear about folks just like them.....you. When you share your own
testimony, I wish you could see your eyes as they dance in the light of
the Father's Love. You're irrestible, tell your story.
That's a few things that I've been learning while in the trenches, as I'll give a report from time to time about how this all goes. I think the fundamental thing though is learning by doing. I think that there are many closet Divine Lovers who are timid about talking about the Father's Love. Just ask the angels, as many of them felt the same way one time. And now look at them in all their lovely silliness.....................
Your loving buddy,
Dan
Amada Reza
10-24-2005, 06:27 PM
Dear Dan,
I'm glad to see you again! :) Thank you for sharing your parable of the rudder. When our faith is firmly planted in activating God's Love, we can remain on course, even in tricky weather.
Love to you and yours!
Amy
Dan Bowman
10-24-2005, 08:10 PM
Hi Amy. And a great big hug & kiss for you too. Yes, the rudder is a great lesson. On Saturday, we made a bay crossing & the waves and wind was very sporty & yet took an incredible energy to stay on track, facilitated by leaning the kayak. It's called carving an edge. This is fun for awhile & then I just give in & drop the rudder. Now it doesn't matter what's thrown my way, as the track is steady & sure.
It reminds me of self effort, like leaning the boat, constantly adjusting your position or dropping the rudder: like depending upon God's Love to track the soul. By yielding through prayer, we no longer progress through self effort but upon the energies of God's Love.
Thanks for the howdy.
My love to you & your beautiful family too.
Dan
Zara Borthwick
10-25-2005, 09:45 AM
Dear Dan,
Welcome home from another adventure in nature and with good friends. It is great to hear that you felt so connected to the Father and the Angels and that you had moments to share with your friend how the Divine Love enriches your life. It was nice to read of your observations in sharing, as the guidelines are important to follow, to honour the needs of that individual. It is always interesting when we desire to convey with another something which we so deeply love, and yet to be sensitive to their needs .
Oh Dan it is nice to have you back posting of your adventures and your insights, and sharing with us all your enthusiasm for life filled with Divine Love and angelic insight. The enthusiasm is contagious and encouraging for us all. Deb and Rory must be pleased also, to have you safely home and re-charged for the next chapter!
Love from us both and great to see you posting!
With love,
Zara
Dan Bowman
10-25-2005, 12:49 PM
Dear Zara and Nicholas,
Coming home to friends like you and sharing these adventures with God is a great joy. There is so much insight available when being alone with God in the wilderness. Thank goodness I don't like it too much or I might just stay there. However the beauty of friendship is also one of the great aspects of the soul's existence as I treasure what we share as one of the highlights of my life.
I had a rare experience while paddling against the big waves and wind this week. As I paddled, I felt a hand over my right hand pushing my paddle as I muscled through the advancing crests. Several times I looked down at my right hand as I thought that the material of my long sleeve top had slipped down and was covering my hand. Each time I looked down, the thought that an angel's hand was superimposed over mine and was helping me paddle. I thought it odd because the conditions were not perilous and I didn't really need the extra help but this happened at least three or four times that day.
One of the great conversations I had with Mike was about passion. I shared with him what I am passionate about, the Father's Love. As I talked about what jazzes me I thought; ok Mike, it's your turn now, what is your passion? Mike talked about his work as a geologist in the oil and gas industry and where he wants to go in his career. Despite the fact that this is a materialistic goal, I gave Mike my full undivided attention, asked questions and showed a genuine interest in his goals. The next time we meet, we'll compare notes and I'll update him on my passion in the Father's Love and little by little I know God is making inroads into Mike's soul. Someday he'll be paddling with me in the Celestial Kingdom. I think a lesson for me was to have total acceptance of Mike and allow him to be be himself, so that he can have the freedom to choose the Father's Love for himself. I believe my track record of staying true to the Father's Love is inspirational to Mike and to others.
I believe we are entering a new era in our soul's progression and in the development of the Celestial Heavens. It is as if the very portals of the heavens are being opened up to us here on earth who choose to walk the Divine path. Many new mediums will emerge and offerings that have never been demonstrated such as healing and great mediumistic powers will emerge. I see an outreach to the children as they are the future of this movement. Many new things will come to pass in the next couple of years that will be a major reformation in the DL movement. Isn't it exciting?
I love you guys,
Dan
Kay Ann Ray
10-25-2005, 03:58 PM
Yes, Dan, it is exciting,
I feel good about more presentations of the P Messages being put together for the purpose of reaching many more seeking souls with the wonderful truths about the availability of God's great Gift of Love.
Maybe some seeking souls feel that the messages are somewhat 'dry' and 'heavy' or difficult to understand. Especially for the people who are into reading novels, and who are trying to find excitement in the material world.
It seems to me that by selecting some specific messages and assembling a less lengthy and, perhaps, more simplistic compilation, the great truths can be expounded upon without overburdening the reader with details which aren't necessary for their spiritual growth and developing an awareness of higher truths.
Do you feel that a feminist would be more apt to become interested in a presentation which used less male-gender baised language? I applaud any and all divine souls who are moved by their love to reach out with the truths they know, in an attempt to help the seeker learn of their potential to become a Divine Being.
It's nice to have you back, Dan, the Board becomes quiet while you're away. Enthusiasm is contagious, that's a good thing.
My love to you and your family. Your sister in Christ, Kathryn
Zara Borthwick
10-26-2005, 05:33 AM
Good posts Dan and Kathryn
The message of Divine Love can be so easily given and shared. Heartfelt words of Divine Love can be so easily received. Dan the way in which you share your experience of Divine Love is so accepting that anyone reading the posts will feel this connection to the Truth of the Love. And Kathryn anyone reading your post will feel attracted to the Grace of the Love. What we all share in common and is particular to the individual, is the attribute of our life-truth. For some it will be the joy of the Love; for others the comfort of the Love and the peacefulness in the knowing. We will all share in the faith of Divine Love through our particular life truth attribute and our experience that will convey our love in sharing of the Love, Faith and Truth.
There are those who are seekers of the Truth however the majority of souls will need to know of the Love first to make ready their ability to learn the Truths. If every soul who participated with Divine Love shared their experience of Divine Love and their love of the Father, this would unite and reveal the vision which the Angels and Guides have so lovingly spoken of over these many years and would be a sight of love to behold and also be in keeping with the Padgett messages.
And so I begin a Divine Experience ...
Zara Borthwick
10-26-2005, 01:04 PM
Dear Dan,
I hope it is a wonderful dawn for you and a splendid day ahead. You are what is best in men and my, you are quite the visionary...right there with you Dan. We both love thinking about the future. It is almost like we can touch it with our fingertips and one has the feeling that the Angels love inspiring us in this guided direction! Nicholas and I feel that it is a really good part of living faith; and that is to see what may be and what may come to pass.
It is great to see vision shared on the board, as it enables one to participate with expansive perception and this lets others see where they too may soar. It also opens the door and lets the "light" in. Let us open our wings and be like angels and glide the Celestial high.
Zara
Dan Bowman
10-26-2005, 06:56 PM
Dear Kathryn & Zara,
The charge of enthusiasm has been levied for which I am guilty as charged. Perhaps it is because both of you have been such good teachers.
I was overcome with tears this morning Zara when I read your post & Kathryn: I feel so atune to what you wrote as if there were a meeting of souls speaking as one voice.
I don't know about others who visit the DLF as members or guests, but do you see some radical changes happening here. I have never felt more alive in my Father's Love & it looks to me like A ...........
Spiritual Renaissance
A renaissance is a period of vigorous & robust artistic & spiritual change. Do you not feel as though this is now emerging?
The angels & the Father have been preparing many of us for along time for this moment. I feel myself consumed by a greater passion than before as I believe that even the influence that we have upon one another is most momentous.
If we see beauty in another as I do with you my sisters, it is because it is you that is the best not only in a woman, but in what is best in one of God's Angels of Love. As you are both angels, I make no distinction between those who are becoming & those who have arrived. Actually, the Celestials are constantly "becoming" as they aspire for more of God's Divine Love.
Zara you said:
"If every soul who participated with Divine Love shared their experience of Divine Love and their love of the Father, this would unite and reveal the vision which the Angels and Guides have so lovingly spoken of over these many years ".
All of us teach through example as it is we who are now moved by our souls to speak more boldly in the spirit of the Father's Love. These expressions & sharings are most inspirational on the DLF.
Kathryn you asked if it would be good to target feminists? Another book yet written Kathryn? Every population group needs to hear about the Divine Experiement as well as books for children, the sick & dying etc.
Both of you are super special to me.
Love,
Dan
Zara Borthwick
11-03-2005, 01:44 AM
I have felt for some time now, to write about those who may not come to know and experience the Divine Truth because of certain conditions in their life. A number of months ago I was visiting a nursing home to visit an elderly relative who has since passed over. On my visits there I stopped outside a room and noticed another elderly woman, curled up in her bed seemingly asleep. A young nurse came by and quietly told me that she had had a stroke when she was 25, and had been in a coma ever since, and was 75 years of age now. Her family were of a particular faith and visited her once a month, and had made her life as comfortable as possible. She had not opened her eyes for 50 years. The nurse went about her duties, washing her patient, and although I did not know this person, my heart felt a real love and empathy for her condition. I felt in this moment to pray to the Father for Divine Love and in this prayer, acknowledged this elderly woman and I spoke quietly, "Father I know this woman cannot ask for your Divine Love at this time, and I am here asking for your Love. I have seen her as I am with you, and can you please love her as a soul of yours."
I have come across and seen many souls who through their circumstance may not be able to ever come to know of the Father as I have. I have felt inspired to write, and because we so desire everyone to come to know about the Divine Love, that it may be that many in their lifetime will live without knowing the truths. We may all know of individuals in circumstances such as these, and I recognise in my prayers and ask our Father to love them with all his Love and tenderest care and that in spirit when the soul is free from these physical circumstances they too may come to know the Father.
Dan Bowman
11-03-2005, 03:22 AM
Zara, I was writing a post to you & a viritual reality crash occured sending my bytes off into the universe. Now where was I?
I am comforted in the benevolence of God as His Love is so perfect that redemption/salvation can be realized beyond the grave. Those individuals with infirmities will still have the opportunity to discover this great Love. You know that already so what am I saying here.
I see as a vision a tremendous spiritual mission put in place by Master Jesus that is most ambitious & works behind the scenes of seekers lives with uncanny precision, tenacity & absolute love.
I marvel at the unfolding of my own path & the doors that have been opened to lead me to a greater possession of the Divine Love. I see this reality unfolding for many souls as there are literally millions of Celestial Angels engaged in this awesome mission.
The little lady in bed in the nursing home is in the Father's heart as he never forgets His Children. His will for her is that she find love, either natural or divine as her joy & happiness & personal fulfillment. He knows her special needs & is so proactive that He already has things in mind for her. I realize more & more just how involved God is in all our lives.
Well just a few quips from your friend, Dan.
With love,
Dan
Zara Borthwick
11-03-2005, 03:55 AM
Dear Dan,
You wrote:"The little lady in bed in the nursing home is in the Father's heart as he never forgets His Children. His will for her is that she find love, either natural or divine as her joy & happiness & personal fulfillment. He knows her special needs & is so proactive that He already has things in mind for her. I realize more & more just how involved God is in all our lives".
This is beautifully said Dan. There is a real message in this and requires one to really see that the Father knows of all souls and the hearts of those souls even when an individual may not know it.
Sending my love to you and Deb,
Zara
Dan Bowman
11-03-2005, 02:04 PM
My morning coffee buddy, Ladyhawk. I've been thinking about God's presense in our lives, as at one time I thought that this was like a game of hide & seek & God was hiding from us. And our goal was to try to find our Divine friend. Now, I think that we, God's children are hiding from Him & he is busy seeking our hearts, calling out to us. I hear God saying, come back to me.
One of my favorite movies is Time After Time with Christopher Reeves & Jane Seymour. You probably have seen it, but for those who have not, it is a love story about how two individuals in love, become seperated by time & space. A call beyond the grave is spoken to the one who is still a mortal: Come back to me.
Sometimes, like in this movie or with love songs, I feel God as the object of that passion. Fortunately my wife is not jealous of my affection for my sweet Divine friend.
Love ya Ladyhawk,
Dan
Kay Ann Ray
11-03-2005, 04:30 PM
Dear Zara, Dan and all,
When I read the post about the woman in a coma for 50 years, I had the awareness that souls have the opportunity to go spirit-traveling while they are sleeping, so it seems to me that this dear soul has been visiting the spirit world all the time during her confinement.
During her visits she could be exposed to the angel's teachings about Divine Love, she could visit her friends and relatives, etc. I have no inclination to believe that she had remained only in her non-functioning physical body all her life since she went into a physical coma.
I agree with Dan that God is acutely aware of all His children's needs and that there are laws in place to provide them with blessings which will aid in their spiritual development. God's will is that all souls become at-One with Him in Love.
God blesses all of humankind and, I feel, especially the innocent, humble and unassuming. It seems to me that as people become puffed up with their own importance, they cut off much of the spiritual help they otherwise would be privy to; like being in touch with their inner knowings.
Humility is the touchstone for an entrance into the Celestial Heavens. It is through humility, sensitivity, being able to be still and become aware of the energies in the atmosphere surrounding you that enables a person to be in touch with their spiritual opportunities.
I feel that I sabotage myself everytime I get so busy that I forget to pray, or to be aware of the peace and joy of the moment. Even though I know that Love, peace and joy are the most important aspects of daily living, if I forget to be still and receive The Love the Holy Spirit is waiting to bestow upon me, I can miss enjoying the upliftment which could have been mine if I was less anxious or distracted.
God blesses us, each and every one. I want to reach out and take God's Hand and follow closely in the Way toward fulfillment and joy. I'm happy to know that spiritual wisdom is an attribute of the soul that receives Divine Love.
I hope and pray that you and your loved ones are having a peaceful and love-filled day.
Your friend, coworker and sister in the Christ Love, Kathryn
Zara Borthwick
11-04-2005, 09:35 AM
Dear Divine Love Diary,
Hi everyone! Today I was walking the track of the lake, the sun was shining and Jude walked by, plugged in to her IPod. She smiled and shouted "it is nealy Divine Love Day" I gave her the thumbs up and shouted "yes...just over a month to go". I have read in the news for October in the truths.com site a mention for Divine Love Day and that is great to see, thanks guys.
All the Father's blessings,
Zara
Zara Borthwick
12-24-2005, 04:12 AM
On behalf of the DLF, we wish you all a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. May all our souls be Blessed in the Grace of our Father's Divine Love and for all involved in their Divine Love faith, may our hearts shine with light on loved ones and among family and friends.
Thank you all for participating on the DLF and contributing toward the movement of Divine Love and our sharing of the Padgett messages, and may 2006 be an illumination of the Father's Love and spirit in all we do with each other and the Celestial Angels.
Love,
Zara
Dear Zara,
Thank you for posting this. I've been wondering how to send Christmas greetings to everyone, and you've shown the way.
Quite simply, much love to all of you, and thank you for being such an inspiration all year long. May Jesus' peaceful love shine down on all especially strongly on Christmas Day and throughout the year. And he adds, "hold you in the palm of his healing hand."
love,
Rebecca
Sandy
12-24-2005, 04:59 PM
Just coming back from our annual Christmas Eve tradition - watching the children`s Christmas play at a local church in Frankfurt -, I feel deeply touched and would like to wish all of you a wonderful magical inspiring Christmas filled with Love and joy, in the company of your loved ones both in Heaven and on earth !
Much Love from Germany, Sandy
Kay Ann Ray
12-24-2005, 04:59 PM
Thank you, Zara, for your blessings and good wishes,
I feel sincerely blessed to know that I have made the effort to develop my relationship with God and that I have activated my faith in the power of Divine Love. Last night I had started taking on serious symptoms of the nasty sickness Amy has been suffering with for over a week. I prayed for a healing, I took herbs and vitamin C, I used vicks to help me breathe and I prayed some more.
One of the symptoms was heavy congestion in my throat which was very difficult to remove from that passage way. By the third dose of herbal medicine, around 3 A.M., I became aware that the congestion had dissipated quite significantly. I felt relieved and so very blessed to have known, in my heart, that God and the Ministering angels have the power to channel spiritual energy of healing to my body, mind and soul.
God bless you, my fellow workers in the dissemination of the Great News about humankinds potential to become divine souls, Born Again in Love. Let's start out the new year with hope in our hearts that we will continue to exemplify the effects of God's wondrous Love in our souls by loving ourselves, one another and all humankind.
Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, Seasons Greetings, Happy New Year, be happy and love yourselves.
With Love, your sister in the Christ Spirit, Kathryn
Dan Bowman
12-24-2005, 10:00 PM
Dear Divine Friends,
It is now Christmas Eve here in Texas, a balmy warm day, lots of sunshine as the trees sway in the wind. As I look out into the forest & behold nature's beauty I further reflect upon this year on the DLF. It was last Christmas that I became a member of the DLF as this has been a particularly important benchmark in my spiritual progression. Since that time the frequency & fervency of my prayers has escalated netting me an awesome quantum leap of progression. Obviously this is not the result of any achievement on my part, however my submission to the greater power of the Divine Love.
One subject that Zara intoduced this year was thqt of Worthiness. This subject has captivated my interest such that I continue to seek deeper understandings. Just recently I was facing a challenging situation & I wondered in premeditation how it might turn out, realizing that my failure would only feed my feelings of unworthiness. In the middle of it all did I feel a presense, a power that was shaping & ordering the events that were unfolding in front of me. As a result, everything resulted in complete harmony. I am amazed sometimes at the awesome power of the Divine Love in our lives & how it guides & protects us from harms way.
So for me my feelings of worthiness are realized in the New Heart that God has given me, a heart of love, whose nobility flows from God I love this part of myself so much as it has become what I look to for my worthiness & not my earthly nature. Therefore my worthiness has increased with an increased possession of the Divine Love.
Thank you loving friends for your friendship & association on the DLF. I'm looking forward to a new year of inspiration & progression with you on the forum. Peace & prayers for your greater progression in the Father's Love.
Love,
Dan
Jesus may be out of town for the weekend, but the Holy Spirit will no doubt be making the rounds.
Ho Ho Ho(ly)!
Merry Christmas everyone! :D
Maria
01-31-2006, 08:17 PM
Dan & Zara, it's still really funny 4 mo. later !! haha!!.
I'm a little behind on reading the msg. but you all made
just made me laugh like crazt at this one. I better clarify that
I'm laughing "with you" & never "at you" :-).
Thank you & keep up with the brightest of stars !!.
Love you all.
Maria.
the
Zara Borthwick
02-13-2006, 11:51 PM
With those glorious souls living in the Celestial Heavens, in our knowing of Divine Love, let us open our wings and be like angels and glide the Celestial high.
Dan Bowman
02-27-2006, 03:55 AM
This is a hoot Maria as I'm reading your post about a month late too and I'm laughing with you too. Merry Christmas. Maria in February.
Love,
Dan
Dan Bowman
02-27-2006, 04:17 AM
Recently, on a long drive across Texas I got to thinking about progression. Is it linear as in a horizontal line or vertical, like rising higher?
The horizontal linear line of progression is as a time line of one's life, from creation, incarnation and transition into the spirit world. On this time line one could track events and experiences, all of which makes up ones progression.
The vertical linear line of progression suggests moving upward or going higher in one's progression. We think of the Celestial Heavens as higher and darkness as lower. This could also be called hierarchical progression of higher and lower states of being.
There is another perspective that somehow fits into my own experiences and realizations. It's the concept of the circle of progression. I realized this as the result of "coming full circle" and re-visiting worthiness several months ago....something that I come back to, like many other things in my life. Is it that I'm a slow learner or am just not praying enough, that I have to go back through the same stuff again. Actually no. I realized that the reason we come full circle in our progression is because our progression may be like a circle as we will re-visit many issues during our life and each time, bringing more love, wisdom and desire to be more integrated in these areas of our life.
It reminds me of when I was talking to my brother about self help books and why we come back to re-read them again. He say's it not because we didn't get it right the first time, we just didn't get it all because it takes more than one experience, one hit, one episode in our life whereby harmony is achieved in these various issues. Each time we come back, we may learn something new and bring new growth to old issues. Perhaps men will need to re-visit their attitudes about women many times during their life and vice versa for women with men. Progression is gradual and takes time and effort to achieve greater states of clarity and harmony.
A circle is also an endless loop that never ends, a perfect metaphor of progression.
Love,
Dan
Amada Reza
02-27-2006, 05:51 AM
Hi Dan,
I like your analogy of progression as a circle and revisiting an awareness over and over again till the truth of it deepens within us. I imagine when we are born, our awareness of truth is like a rudimentary sketch, the outlines are there but not filled in. As we experience the truth and apply it in our every day living the sketch becomes filled in with all the subtle colors and shading of our understanding until, at the end of our life on earth, we are a relatively complete picture. With the Divine Love we become not only an image of how God "drew" us, but the real thing, walking off the page into eternity.
Thanks for sharing this lovely thought, dear brother. Sending you and your family my love and prayers,
Amy
Joseph
05-26-2006, 12:00 AM
Dear Zara and other lovers of Divine Love,
A few moments ago I completed reading all (but a few) the messages written in this thread. I feel as though I have experienced a new-birth while reading here. I have no comments now, only to say thank you for these messages. All together, they are like reading a continuation of the Padgett messages.
I am grateful to Geoff and his website, where I have been reading for almost a month (printing out the messages and reading them over and over again). I wil l not need to be using Geoff's new-birth.net as much after today. Finally, I have three books now; they arrived in the mail today. I now have my own copy of Angelic Revelations of Divine Truth, VOl.s I & II, and I also have a copy of New Testment Revelations of Jesus of Nazareth. Either I will not post much, becaue I will be busy reading, or I will post more because I will want to talk to someone about Divine Truth.
Above, someone wrote a message about her early experience reading the Padgett messages; she said (I think it was Zara) she slept a lot. Now I know what has been happening to me when I first began to read the P.M.s several weeks ago. I slept so much until I thought maybe I was ill! Well I was ill, in a sense. The doctors of Love in the spirit realm were operating on me!
Love and Joy!
Joseph
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